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| London and Wakey definitely, however Catalans away is, as always, a tough game. It said during the commentary on Saturday that Leeds are the only team to win there this year (although can't remember who else has been, they may have all been poor teams).
Widnes away is also a tricky game. They're a better team than us this year, and have we ever actually won on their Ipitch?
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| Quote ="airliebird,runninglate!"Some massive drama queenery on this board
not great currently granted.
But win next week and get some confidence back into us. Have a week off due to cup. That's a fortnight's training working on deficiencies. During that time players like lineham and Sa will benefit massively. If we pick up a win in the following game the whole place, players fans etc will feel better different place.
Sport is based around confidence and that can be fueled by form. And why good form and bad form happens is sometimes a mystery. But even the best teams get it. I've not been a fan as long as some on here but without asking for blind optimism a few wins and it's totally different.'"
Confidence is the biggest issue we face at the moment you're right. London will know that on Saturday and will fancy it as most teams do these days when playing us. Our lack of confidence will feed theirs. Important that we have a basic game plan and complete well IMO. Our pack should get on top of theirs if we get an equal share of the ball.
The trouble will start if we don't roll pour sleeves up but instead try and score every play. Make a few mistakes and the fragile mind set we possess will make its familiar appearance.
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| Quote ="airliebird,runninglate!"Some massive drama queenery on this board
not great currently granted.
But win next week and get some confidence back into us. Have a week off due to cup. That's a fortnight's training working on deficiencies. During that time players like lineham and Sa will benefit massively. If we pick up a win in the following game the whole place, players fans etc will feel better different place.
Sport is based around confidence and that can be fueled by form. And why good form and bad form happens is sometimes a mystery. But even the best teams get it. I've not been a fan as long as some on here but without asking for blind optimism a few wins and it's totally different.'"
very sensible view.
Some of these keyboard warriors need to take a chill pill. Most of them weren't around when things were REALLY bad.
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| Quote ="TrevLovesJanice"very sensible view.
Some of these keyboard warriors need to take a chill pill. Most of them weren't around when things were REALLY bad.'"
Shudders.
Peter Walsh. Len Casey.
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| Next 6 are all winnable if we can find any form.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Next 6 are all winnable if we can find any form.'"
You think our young Aussie halves are both cr@p and that our young inexperienced coach isn't up to the job and that there's the possiblity of us foghting a relegation battle but still believe we may/should possibly win the next six.
Seriously?
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| I think its fair to say that the next 4 games are winnable. They will certainly define our season. Win all 4 and we might just start to view things a little differently such is the fickle nature of supporting a club we all love.
Equally though anything less than 4 points and I suspect the knives if not already sharpened will certainly be sharp and poised for action.
As fans we have to have faith that all will be good and we turn a corner. That said though anything less than a convincing win at London and I suspect things will really start to turn nasty. Our record in the capital is appalling and its not really the place we need to be going to gain some confidence. Its a no win situation imo.
I am far from convinced that we have the right coach to take us where we want to be. But equally I will be there on Saturday hoping that we get a good performance and we can move into the break with a win and use the break to get some bodies patched up and get some coherence especially amongst the backs.
I am still holding out for a top 8 finish, if for nothing else than a bit of confidence that we can actually get in the 8 with a very average set of players and hopefully build on that in 2015 once AP has cleared ALL the deadwood out regardless of place of birth. Because there is absolutely no way that we want to be out of the top 8 after this season.
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| Quote ="Diablo1967"Shudders.
Peter Walsh. Len Casey.'"
Dont see much difference between Radford and Casey to be honest.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Next 6 are all winnable if we can find any form.'"
Pint of what your drinking please.
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| Quote ="gellis11"If we are to get into the play offs, we need to win the next 4 games, london, widnes, catalan and wakefield, all away but if we are truly a top 8 contender these are the games we should be winning imo'"
London is a must win as others have been saying. Widnes are a good team this year but even if they weren't our last two games at Widnes have been shockers so I can't see a win in that one. Catalans away is never easy. Wakey away could be tricky having already lost to them at the KC.
If we come out of these fixtures with four points I'll be happy.
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| Quote ="Doc Brown"Quote ="gellis11"London is a must win as others have been saying. Widnes are a good team this year but even if they weren't our last two games at Widnes have been shockers so I can't see a win in that one. Catalans away is never easy. Wakey away could be tricky having already lost to them at the KC.
If we come out of these fixtures with four points I'll be happy.'" '"
It is essential we beat the other two relegation candidates London and Wakefield.
We rarely seem to win away at Widnes.
We have no chance in France.
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| We will pick up 6 points out of the available 8.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"You think our young Aussie halves are both cr@p and that our young inexperienced coach isn't up to the job and that there's the possiblity of us foghting a relegation battle but still believe we may/should possibly win the next six.
Seriously?'"
I said they are all winnable if we can find any form, not that we may/should possibly win them. the clue is in what I posted, not your spin on it.
london - worst team in the comp. winnable
widnes - Created nothing at teh KC and lost at home to wakey the other week. Winnable
les cats - poor season to date and we scored 8 tries against them in the home game. hardest game in the 6 but winnable
wakefield - below us in the league. winnable
salford - below us in the league. winnable
wire - only lost in the away fixture because they kicked more goals than us. winnable
Whether we do win any of tehm is down to whether we can find our early season form (before our 2 australian halfs were paired together).
I stick by my views on rankin, miller and radford
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| Yes, ok.
All games are winnable.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Yes, ok.
All games are winnable.'"
What are you saying then? Are these games beyond us? All or just some of them? What's your take on things? You rarely actually post your views or opinions and most of your posts are pretty meaningless. If you disagree with my view at least post something meaningful
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"What are you saying then? Are these games beyond us? All or just some of them? What's your take on things? You rarely actually post your views or opinions and most of your posts are pretty meaningless. If you disagree with my view at least post something meaningful'"
I think you like to build our team up to knock it down.
You've done it consistently on here for years.
That's your prerogative.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"I think you like to build our team up to knock it down.
You've done it consistently on here for years.
That's your prerogative.'"
Think what you want. I just say it as I see it and at least I have an opinion.
Anyway, back to my question, what's your take on the current situation? I'd like to hear your views on the club for a change instead of you just posting about other people on here
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Think what you want. I just say it as I see it and at least I have an opinion.
Anyway, back to my question, what's your take on the current situation? I'd like to hear your views on the club for a change instead of you just posting about other people on here'"
I didn't get swept away with the AP/Gentle euphoria like most.
AP has made some fundamental mistakes but it's a learning curve
Agreed with his termination of Gentles contract.
I stated before season start that I thought this year would be difficult.
It looks like I'm being proved correct.
The current set-up has my unmitigated support but we have to start getting some results and turning things round.
We've got to start recruiting a million miles better than the last few seasons.
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| I honestly don't think the halfs have been that bad in recent weeks, the backs have been the problem. However get Sa match fit and Lineham back in the team and things look a little rosier.
Jake is spot on, next 6 are winnable. The last couple of games (well, game and a half) the team has shown a bit of pride and fight, even though we havnt played the best rugby. Take that attitude into these games against sides that we are more than capable of beating and we should do okay.
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| Quote Chris Annakin of Wakefield Trinity Wildcats banned for five matches by independent tribunal after admitting a Grade D dangerous throw in Sunday's game against Warrington Wolves. '" Anyone see this??
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| Of course they are winnable but we've got to start doing it and collecting points.
We've underperformed in some but only had our @rses handed to us once this season and that was the Wigan home game.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"I didn't get swept away with the AP/Gentle euphoria like most.
AP has made some fundamental mistakes but it's a learning curve
Agreed with his termination of Gentles contract.
I stated before season start that I thought this year would be difficult.
It looks like I'm being proved correct.
The current set-up has my unmitigated support but we have to start getting some results and turning things round.
We've got to start recruiting a million miles better than the last few seasons.'"
And do you believe radford is the man to take us forward? How about our 2 australian halfs? Will they come good and how long do we give them? or should we bin them both now?
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"And do you believe radford is the man to take us forward? How about our 2 australian halfs? Will they come good and how long do we give them? or should we bin them both now?'"
Well it would be true to say my knee isn't jerking as frantically as many after him having been in charge for only 14 SL games, although our recent form has been disappointing after an early promising start to this years campaign.
I think both our Aussies could probably make it in SL given time but as we notoriously know they aint gonna get it at our club although I think we desperately needed to bring in, and still do, a more experienced playmaker. (AP talked the talk).
We can't really bin either at present but we have a new half coming in for next season so probably one or both could well possibly get their P45 at seasons end.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Well it would be true to say my knee isn't jerking as frantically as many after him having been in charge for only 14 SL games, although our recent form has been disappointing after an early promising start to this years campaign.
I think both our Aussies could probably make it in SL given time but as we notoriously know they aint gonna get it at our club although I think we desperately needed to bring in, and still do, a more experienced playmaker. (AP talked the talk).
We can't really bin either at present but we have a new half coming in for next season so probably one or both could well possibly get their P45 at seasons end.'"
See, it's not that difficult. You should try it more often
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"See, it's not that difficult. You should try it more often'"
It's not that Jakester.
I'm as emotional and wanting us to succeed as much as the next man.
Just can't be @rsed to get dragged into the daily 'he's cr@p or let's sack him' daily agendas on here.
The forums just a p!ss-take and a bit of light relief.
I take it as such.
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