Would Agar have still blamed Crocker as not one of his players then?

In terms of next season the one plsu point so far is our recruitment, another 2/3 to come in and a fair few to go out and maybe Agar might be able to deliver some quality and consistent rugby next season. That said maybe he is useless but at least we are getting the squad right which is something we have not done in the last few seasons.

Disposer of rubbish?

There's a popular phrase which escapes me, something about workmen and tools?

I really think there are two seperate issues regarding the 'Agar's team' thing.
yes, i accept that they are not 'his' players (though you could argue that he been assistant coach when the majority joined the club though i accept that he wouldnt have final say on those signings)

however

no matter who signed them, there are plenty with international, SOO, and major final experience and for that group of players to churn out what they have been doing is just not acceptable no matter who is in charge and who signed them. I have worked for idiots before but it didnt give me the right to do a crap job and take no pride in my work

www.smh.com.au/news/lhqnews/are- ... 23640.html Maybe this is a reason why ?

www.smh.com.au/news/lhqnews/are- ... 23640.html Maybe this is a reason why ?

And no matter whether he signed them or not he needs to work with them to improve their games and set the right strategy for them to play to.

Morgans 33.

and talented!

Exactly.

Exactly. Effectively 13 of us of this board could turn out for FC and whilst skill levels would be presumably (!) quite low, you'd still expect a good coach to extract the best possible performance out them, no matter that level might be.
So the fact that the coach has a squad full of international and rep players means that this 'Agar's team' stuff doesnt wash with me at all. Cos you cant tell me that anyone in that team is operating anywhere near to there potential/level even on a purely individual basis.

And likes coke, it's his fave drink, he wont drink owt else!

Successful 33 year old with disposable income working in a stressful environment, he's hardly alone in liking the odd can?

Well there is enough shi ite out on the pitch.

Not really, the problem is Fittler and Cleary will have played with/against some of the players they are in charge of now and may not get the respect off of them. The same thing happened with Nathan Brown at St George, he couldnt change the players view of him from a team mate to coach, hell it ended up in him slapping Trent Barrett.

The same happened at Wigan with Denis Betts apparently.

"If you're good enough, you're old enough"

Agar could live to 100+ and he still wont be GOOD enough.

Michael Maguire and Jim Dymock are head coaches in the waiting.

Spot on.

I think it is:

A poor tool always blames the workmen

I always got the impression James was quite wealthy.

JR has already stated "RA has recruited well for 2010, the players he wants, he's got, it's now up to him to provide the results and rugby league we expect!

I think either of these two would jump at the chance to coach first grade.

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