So do I they way they are both playing at the moment

We do. Or do you think Longy plays for peanuts?

I think even Chris Thorman would look good in the Melbourne Storm side that Finch played in


He's being found out a bit now.

He's not bad for half back cover though is he?

. Rovers could do with him at the moment.

the way your recruitment has gone the past few years, he will probably be first choice 7 next year


and they will use the money saved to buy another back rower.

nobodys saying obst is a world class half back,but he will do for me.he gives 100% is versatile ,tricky and is good in defence.a lot of big name aussies come over on big contracts and dont deliver.i like players who look commited to the cause,obst is such a player.

In a nutshell.

We've "bought" one back rower. Probably the best young ENGLISH 13 in the country aswell.
As for 7's, I'd worry about where yours is going to be next year, Orford isn't exactly ripping it up in Canberra and talk is of dropping him to the reserve grade and finding them a new 7 for next year.

fair doo's. just pointing out that a club as big as fc should be challenging wire, wigan, shudds and saints (my top 4 prediction for this year btw). obst is not of that quality imo. brough seems to be getting better every year, the club let him go, hind sights a wonderful thing.

dobson is probably the best 7 in sl. i will admit were garbage without him, but our club seem to know the importance of spending to the cap and putting quality where its needed even if there is no plan b.

Agree with that. Thought he'd be a good signing for you. Obst, T.Leuluai, M. Monaghan - just so valuable to their squads, IMO. Not saying they're all of equivalent quality, necessarily, but Hull, Wigan and Warrington would look a good bit weaker without them.

Tommy Lee

Attitude all wrong. If he hadn't believed the hype...maybe...but still, probably not.

Unless you was being sarcastic? In which case...

i remember a few years back, a hull fan coming back to pub after a game, quite a sensible chap, good knowledge of the game claiming tommy was majestic on the ball and reminded him of a young andrew johns. what went wrong?

Well he wasn't alone. Rugby League World magazine had him in the top ten teenagers in world RL three years ago.

If his attitude hasn't changed, fair enough. Perhaps he might have matured over the last couple of years? Still only 23. I'll get hung, drawn and quartered for a lack of ambition, but he could be a decent 9-cum-7 IMO. Nobody wants to be [ijust[/i a reserve 7 - well nobody better, anyway. He's played 7 a few times for Wakefield this year, I think.

Kerrist,don`t you ever see anything in a positive light?

Bet it was after that "show and go" vs Paul Sculthorpe.

He still isn't brilliant, no matter how highly you rate him. he's looked OK in a Hull side who have been crying out for someone with a bit of energy in the halfs. he isn't a great organiser and he isn't particularly creative, he hasn't got a great kicking game but he is enthusiastic and he hasn't even been injured yet. The deficiencies we've had in the halfs for 4 years now do not make sam obst brilliant by any stretch of the imagination

Brough wouldn't be the player he is now if he'd stayed at Hull

we could sign cooper cronk and some on here would say what we signed that plodder for.id like to know who some on here would sign.just say we havent signed obst for next year,who do we go for?

If you show any signs of enthusiasm on here,you get accused by some people of being sheep,or wearing black and white specs.Hull are my team,good or bad,and I believe we have some positives,although I will get stick for saying so.

i think it was a mistake to part with brough,but brough is a better player now because he is older and more experienced.scrum halfs tend to do that.no other reason.

Brough has always been a loose cannon,but I didn`t think he played badly whilst at Hull.

And if you try and bring a sense of reality to outlandish claims you get branded as a non fan

I wouldn`t brand anybody who has Hull at heart a none fan,its just that sometimes all negativity gets you down.