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| Quote ="Nobeerineasthull"2. He was on a final written warning from last time.'" Where was this confirmed? The club were very tight lipped about the 2nd incident compared to the 1st.
The more this drags on the more i'm thinking he's staying.
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| He'll stay but with some major conditions like curfews and being assigned to a senior player to help keep him on the straight and narrow. Tbh I dont even know why its causing all this bother tbh as i think he's just another average player who turns it on occasionally but as equally turns it off. Its a sad enditement of the teams predicament that were worried that a player of Jordan Tanseys calibre may be sacked and leave us with no real playmakers.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Where was this confirmed? The club were very tight lipped about the 2nd incident compared to the 1st.
The more this drags on the more i'm thinking he's staying.'"
I think the opposite, I think if he was staying there would have been an announcement. Also if he has been sacked he will have a right to appeal etc which will take time.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Where was this confirmed? The club were very tight lipped about the 2nd incident compared to the 1st.
The more this drags on the more i'm thinking he's staying.'"
Don't think it was mate, just fans putting 2 and 2 together.
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| How can you put him on a curfew when he lives in Leeds?
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| Quote ="Sheldon"How can you put him on a curfew when he lives in Leeds?'"
Make him move to Hull and live with or near a senior player. Either that or he gets f00ked
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Make him move to Hull and live with or near a senior player. Either that or he gets f00ked'"
wasnt one of his tantrums whilst playing out in Hull ??
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Make him move to Hull and live with or near a senior player. Either that or he gets f00ked'"
If it's alcohol related.
I'd make move to hull, I'd also breath alyser him every training season. As well as have him in councilling.
I don't know how a senior player would feel about baby sitting him though.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"I think the opposite, I think if he was staying there would have been an announcement. Also if he has been sacked he will have a right to appeal etc which will take time.'" I hope you're right.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"If it's alcohol related.
I'd make move to hull, I'd also breath alyser him every training season. As well as have him in councilling.
I don't know how a senior player would feel about baby sitting him though.'"
The counselling is a good point, I know our business offer counselling for drink/drug problems if neede. However they would have to determine if he had a drink etc problem or just an attitude problem, I suppose this is what they will identify in the investigation.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"The counselling is a good point, I know our business offer counselling for drink/drug problems if neede. However they would have to determine if he had a drink etc problem or just an attitude problem, I suppose this is what they will identify in the investigation.'" I'm sure he was already on a programme of counselling?
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| Quote ="Nobeerineasthull"1. The club's disciplinary procedure will be the same standard procedure followed by all well-run businesses
2. He was on a final written warning from last time
3. The latest breach of discipline was of a similar nature to his previous breaches
4. Waiting on outcomes re other players may be nonsense and may set a dangerous precedent but that doesn't mean its impossible that it is taking place.'"
Re your points,
1. A Well run company, with an HR dept would have the following approach for non gross mis-conduct charges. Verbal warning, written warning, final written warning, dismissal
2. As he has 2 previous he will not be on a final warning. If he was on a final warning, how are you aware of this? It was not been publicised!
3. How do you know what this breach is for? I reckon you are guessing or taking the word of someone else.
4. Subjective
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"I'm sure he was already on a programme of counselling?'"
Really?
In that case the lad's got a more serious problem than just his career taking a hammering.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"
I don't know how a senior player would feel about baby sitting him though.'"
no one talks to him at present so babysitting is going to be hard to find eh??
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| Quote ="Kosh"Really?
In that case the lad's got a more serious problem than just his career taking a hammering.'" I can't remember who said it, i might of read it on the Leeds board, but i'm sure it's been mentioned.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"I'm sure he was already on a programme of counselling?'"
Well if that is the case it is clearly an attitude problem...good riddance to him
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| Quote ="Sheldon"I don't know how a senior player would feel about baby sitting him though.'"
It's a wonder Radders hasn't already give him a slap and told him to behave.
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| Quote ="withernsea zebra"It's a wonder Radders hasn't already give him a slap and told him to behave.'"
H'e had surgery on his shoulder....Maybe Hame should have done it ....that would have worked the kid would never want to drink again
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| I remember when he signed a bloke who I work with who worked with him at the leeds academy said he will be nothing but problems
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Well if that is the case it is clearly an attitude problem...good riddance to him
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Not really it maybe alcohol.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Not really it maybe alcohol.'"
Well if he has a problem with alcohol and has been given help (via counselling etc), and he still carries on then there is nothing more the club can do, they have no option but to follow the procedures which are set out in the conduct code.
Personally I doubt he has serious issues with alcohol as he would be unable to train/play on a weekly basis like he has, which suggests to me it is more an attitude problem, goes on the razz and appears not to care about the consequences.
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| George Best played at the top level of sport, more recently Bryan Robson and Andrew Johns.
Tansey may not even be Hulls 'Top Drinker' he just might not be able to mix drinking and training, which many can and do.
If he going on the and not caring about his actions that would say the main problem is alcohol.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"[uGeorge Best played at the top level of sport, more recently Bryan Robson and Andrew Johns.
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Tansey may not even be Hulls 'Top Drinker' he just might not be able to mix drinking and training, which many can and do.
If he going on the mickey and not caring about his actions that would say the main problem is alcohol.'"
Fair point..
Still not sure what options the club have now though than to get rid, he is just becoming too much of a risk now.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Fair point..
Still not sure what options the club have now though than to get rid, he is just becoming too much of a risk now.'"
But with the season starting next week is it wise to sack our main full back and disrupt the squad around to cover as I doubt we'll get a new FB on time.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Re your points,
1. A Well run company, with an HR dept would have the following approach for non gross mis-conduct charges. Verbal warning, written warning, final written warning, dismissal
2. As he has 2 previous he will not be on a final warning. If he was on a final warning, how are you aware of this? It was not been publicised!
3. How do you know what this breach is for? I reckon you are guessing or taking the word of someone else.
4. Subjective
HTH'"
1. Any good policy allows for the exercise of discretion.
2. No it wasn't publicised but its true.
3. Its common knowledge that the latest incident is alcohol related.
4. Yes it is subjective. So what?
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