if we have a qouta spot available lets hope the club move quickly and get it filled with a quality centre.

I believe we do have a quota spot available and if so we should not be wasting it on Moa. We can and will get better.

Agreed.

Humberside et al are clueless.

All teams are allowed 6 non fed/club trained players next season of which a maximum of 5 can be what is classed as "overseas" players (the old quota players). If a non fed/club trained player was in the British game before Feb 2008 he can apply for exemption, once his contract runs out, to be classed as Federation trained and thereby not count as part of the 6. The only players at this club that fall into that category are Motu and Manu. Motu's contract runs out this season so he can apply to be exempt but that will make no difference to the 6 because we already have 6 signed up for next season. Manu is the only player who could make a difference to the 6 signed up for next season and thats only if changing his contract in some way this season means he can apply to be exempt. The residency rule doesn't come into it because you need to have been here since before 2002 IIRC.

As for Moa, I think the club will only keep him (providing we get a space) if we cant get anyone better.

From the RFL operational rules.....

[iPrior to 31st December 2002 any Player who has, and who can prove to the RFL's satisfaction to have been, resident in the EU for an aggregate of 270 days in each of the previous five years shall not be deemed an "overseas Player". For the avoidance of doubt, any exceptions previously granted under this Operational Rule shall remain in force for the remainder of the Player's career.[/i

Manu wasn't here before 2002. Also Motu isn't being counted in the 6 spots for next season anyway as he would be exempt even if he stayed. The only way we will have a spot for next season is if Manu can apply to be exempt from the non club/fed trained player quota and even if that does come off we still cant sign an "overseas" player as we still have our maximum of 5.

What position would you use the quota spot on though? Personally want to either see Hall (my preferred option) at centre or briscoe.

We won't know if they're gonnabe SL quality players unless we play them in their correct positions. I think using Hall and Briscoe for roughly half of next seasons games each at centre would improve them no end.

What available players are there to take up a quota spot which would improve the team in a position we are short of????????

We should never have wasted a quota spot on Yak.

Either a centre or a 6.

We are a good position at the moment, and if we do have a quota place available (god knows how) than even better.

I would be happy to go into next season with our current squad, plus Whiting, Turner and King (I know he has his critics but have been impressed with him recentley.

We can wait and see who becomes available and even nobody does then use it on Moa for a year.

Unless a top centre becomes available i wouldnt use it for that position as I would like to see hall and Briscoe battle for that position next year.

so if we signed either a centre or a 6 how would you accomodate the new centre or stand off along with our current players.

My team for next season

Tansey
Calderwood/Raynor
Hall/Briscoe
Yeaman
Raynor/Calderwood
R.Horne
Long


Fitzgibbon
Berrigan
O'Meley
Burnett
Washbrook/Whiting
Whiting/Washbrook

Lauauki
Cusack
Manu
Houghton


Thats how i would line up as we have washbrook and whiting who are worthy of the 13 shirt IMO and therefore both should play. Would have whiting or washbrook as second row like mcmenemy/chester who can kick decent passing game etc.

I want to see players like radford/king/thackray away from my team and would like to see if we get injuries bringing a young lad from the reserves/academy in same position instead of shuffling 3 players around to accomodate for an injury ie if yeaman got injured put either hall or briscoe straight in or if tansey got injured bring jack briscoe in

Unless we blood them slowly as we see saints and leeds do when they get injuries we are never going to develop our own youth into international players as saints and leeds consistently do

hopefully you aren't all bored to death of my ramblings by the end of this post

Unless he's one of the players becoming a federation trained player, his contract started Nov 07 and the excemption applys to all players who were in the British game before Feb 08, as long as they apply in the last year of their contract, which for Cusack is this year.

I know Kosh is going to dissagree with me on this but im certain the excemption rule applys to all players in the game before Feb 08.

I also disagree. The operational rules still state a maximum of 5 overseas players. The exemption applies to the non fed/club trained players.

Anybody still the wiser......

I was the one who e-mailed the RFL about the excemption ruling and when they replied, they mentioned nothing about it not counting for the quota player.

A non federation player is one who hasn't trained at a British club for 3 years before he was 21, a quota player(or overseas) is still classed as a non fed player.

The e-mail I just send the RFL

If you get a reply you might want to forward it to the club

Why would they apply the exemption to the overseas players when we have every legal right to limit those numbers?

Because it may amount to racial discrimination otherwise?

How the hell do you get that idea?

Quote ="thehullwhitestar"I recieved James Rules' E-mail and it was 100% genuine. He is certain that we have at least one spare quota place. I have E-mailed him twice since then but I have not recieved a reply in almost a week. I explained to him that neither I nor many other fans understand our current quota situation and that we would appreciate a little, albeit brief, clarification but he has not responded. I'll be surprised and disappointed if I don't even get the basic courtesy of a reply !!!'" Try emailing through the new "tell us" section on the main page of the fc website...its new but i got a reply within a day!... www.hullfc.com/hullfc/contents/?page_id=4027

Quote ="thehullwhitestar"I recieved James Rules' E-mail and it was 100% genuine. He is certain that we have at least one spare quota place. I have E-mailed him twice since then but I have not recieved a reply in almost a week. I explained to him that neither I nor many other fans understand our current quota situation and that we would appreciate a little, albeit brief, clarification but he has not responded. I'll be surprised and disappointed if I don't even get the basic courtesy of a reply !!!'" Try emailing through the new "tell us" section on the main page of the fc website...its new but i got a reply within a day!... www.hullfc.com/hullfc/contents/?page_id=4027

Because an individual is being afforded less favourable treatment on the grounds of their nationality.

They have no legal "right" to employment in this country. Therefore the RFL can impose a quota on how many each club is allowed to employ. Anyone with an EU passport has a legal "right" to work in this country.

Its not the quota issue itself, but the exemption rule. I think that by preventing an individual player from applying for exemption status on the grounds of their nationality it could be construed as racial discrimination.

Your just being silly now.

A centre would slot in alongside Yeaman. Briscoe would play mainly wing for another year competing with Calderwood and Raynor whilst also covering centre.

A 6 would play at 6 alongside Long. Horne would then move to centre or even to fullback if we decided to utilise Tansey from the bench, but more than likely to centre.