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| Quote ="Lambrettaman"I may have my failings, being thick certainly isn't one of them.'"
I disagree, certainly when it comes to contract law and confidentiality clauses you seem bereft of cognitive capacity and logic.
Maybe you should change your name to Billy Whizz, as I recall Lambretta's have style, grace and poise, the Billy Whizz just made a boring, annoying droning noise...just a thought.
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| Quote ="Lambrettaman"I've been a Hull City Premier Club member since the day the KC opened, there's always been an additional charge to expand the membership to include Hull FC games(it used to be a very small amount, but it increased substantially ahead of this season) and members had to buy gig tickets at face value too.
You're obviously not accept what I'm saying about the confidentiality agreement, so I won't bang on about it, but Adam is obviously not going to breach it unless it's removed completely, so the suggestion that there's some sort of plan to get him to breach it, simply so FC can get thrown out for breaching it, is ridiculous.
Kosh, my comment about being called a thicko was aimed at the board as a whole, not you specifically and though I may have my failings, being thick certainly isn't one of them.'"
Lets be sensible here, Ehab Allam called upon AP to waive the Clause knowing full well it wasn't in AP's power to do so and knowing that if Hull Fc did respond to his comments they would be in breach of the clause and could be thrown out of the stadium.
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| Quote ="Lambrettaman"I've been a Hull City Premier Club member since the day the KC opened, there's always been an additional charge to expand the membership to include Hull FC games(it used to be a very small amount, but it increased substantially ahead of this season) and members had to buy gig tickets at face value too.
You're obviously not accept what I'm saying about the confidentiality agreement, so I won't bang on about it, but Adam is obviously not going to breach it unless it's removed completely, so the suggestion that there's some sort of plan to get him to breach it, simply so FC can get thrown out for breaching it, is ridiculous.
Kosh, my comment about being called a thicko was aimed at the board as a whole, not you specifically and though[i[u[size=150 I may have my failings, being thick certainly isn't one of them.'" [/size[/u[/i
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"[/size[/u[/i
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| It's just been on the 'Burnsy' show and Burnsy said he had a chat with 'Allam the elder' on Friday in respect of the JW pictures. Allam told Burnsy that the SMC was losing money and he told the MD of SMC to find ways of cutting the losses, revenue from advertising space is something that he will not back down from, and is a matter of principle.
Burnsy then put on his brown nose claiming that Mr Allam was a very nice man and has done a lot of good things in the area, he actually paid for 365 kids for Saturdays game free of charge. And Burnsy is of the opinion that Hull City will NOT be at the KC in 2 years......hmmmmm.
Allam can throw his money about as much as he likes 'buying' support, he can do this for the next 20 years throwing his money about, but he wont even scratch the surface of what JW has GIVEN to this City in all sports, his influence is'nt measured in ££££, it's measured in respect.
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| Quote ="me 'n' our kid" And Burnsy is of the opinion that Hull City will NOT be at the KC in 2 years......hmmmmm.
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Just shows who gullable the local media are. I can't see this happening for various reason such as providing the actual funding for a new stadium, getting the actual and proper plans drawn up (not old ones of the KC they were posing with before) then putting in all the relevant applications in for the build etc to the East Riding Council, then waiting for any sort decision. Plus no doubt the local residents of Welton, Melton & North ferriby would most likely contest any application. Even if it got the go ahead how many people would actually use the facilities they spoke of originally to make it actually pay for itself? The age old Geographical position of Hull is always going to hamper it with any sort of development like this as its not somewhere you go to visit unless you have as you just don't pass through it.
Hence why the Allams are stoking up the pressure on HCC to try and force their hand on the ownership of the KC. It will take years of wrangling etc thorugh the correct channels before they even get round to laying a foundation let alone a completed Stadium.
The Allams may have significant wealth but that doesn't mean they can afford to spend the amount of capital needed to keep City running along aswell as developing a Stadium and complex.
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| The only way that Hull City could achieve and maintain a presence in the EPL is if they suddenly found themselves the target of a foreign benefactor who was absolutely awash with money. Given that even the Russian oligarchs and Arabian oil billionaires now seem to be reining in their previous profligacy, it's difficult to see just where such a person will arrive from.
If such a person could be found, I'd imagine there would be far more attractive propositions in the Championship than Hull City AFC. The demographics suggest that maximum attendances would rarely break the 30,000 barrier, so I couldn't envisage any sort of positive financial return on the capital outlay, never mind the running costs of an out of town EPL venture.
There is always the argument of "build it and they will come" but I doubt it would work successfully at Melton. It's almost as if someone has gone as far as he can with his Subbuteo and now see adding Lego into the mix might be good in the long run
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| Quote ="Chris71"Just shows who gullable the local media are. I can't see this happening for various reason such as providing the actual funding for a new stadium, getting the actual and proper plans drawn up (not old ones of the KC they were posing with before) then putting in all the relevant applications in for the build etc to the East Riding Council, then waiting for any sort decision. Plus no doubt the local residents of Welton, Melton & North ferriby would most likely contest any application. Even if it got the go ahead how many people would actually use the facilities they spoke of originally to make it actually pay for itself? The age old Geographical position of Hull is always going to hamper it with any sort of development like this as its not somewhere you go to visit unless you have as you just don't pass through it.
Hence why the Allams are stoking up the pressure on HCC to try and force their hand on the ownership of the KC. It will take years of wrangling etc thorugh the correct channels before they even get round to laying a foundation let alone a completed Stadium.
The Allams may have significant wealth but that doesn't mean they can afford to spend the amount of capital needed to keep City running along aswell as developing a Stadium and complex.'"
you can also forget any outside funding from sport england or europe! not when there is a perfectly good stadium built already!
just more guff from allam, let them build it using all their own money, gates will be down! plus there is no guarentee they will be in the premiership!
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| Tbh if i was Pearson id be trying to negotiate with the council and Allams to give us some land and build a Halliwell Jones on it then the Allams can have the KC and everyones happy. Costello would be a good base
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Tbh if i was Pearson id be trying to negotiate with the council and Allams to give us some land and build a Halliwell Jones on it then the Allams can have the KC and everyones happy. Costello would be a good base'"
That's a good idea. A 15,00 capacity stadium which would be almost full every home match would create a much better atmosphere and would be more akin to the dear old Boulevard. Unfortunately, I don't see it happening.
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| Wouldn’t they also have to buy out their remaining lease at the KC?
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| On the advertstising side of things, has anyone notice the hoardings that have gone up on the blue and yellow towers on the west stand
Also think there are some near the rail tracks ?
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| if hull city wont be playing in the kc in a couple of seasons, why is allem bothered about our agreement?
just prooves what a load of bull he speaks
and im still waiting for the cheapest football tickets in england to be announced!! more lies from his mouth!
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| Quote ="number 6"and im still waiting for the cheapest football tickets in england to be announced!! more lies from his mouth!'"
you misunderstand the great man he meant "it's free to anyone who doesn't want to attend"
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| Well City won't be going to Melton - there is a big residential/mixed use planning application in for the land that they earmarked for a stadium - with no stadium in sight.
I wonder if the signage over the blue towers has planning permission as it fundamentally changes the appearance of the stadium - mind you, it could be a temporary sign.
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"That's a good idea. A 15,00 capacity stadium which would be almost full every home match would create a much better atmosphere and would be more akin to the dear old Boulevard. Unfortunately, I don't see it happening.'"
I think 18000 would be more suitable
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| Hull City's accounts show a debit of £57 million, plus if they left the KC they would still have to pay the remaining 40 years on the lease at about a million a year. Plus it would cost around 100 million to build a 40000 stadium. I don't think city are going anywhere. Burnsey's clueless
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| For those of you who like reading thru' planning applications (Welton & Melton, perhaps), try [url=http://www.eastriding.gov.uk/newpublicaccess/advancedSearchResults.do;jsessionid=EF6DCD1069BB13BF9336653779B69D49?action=firstPagehere[/url
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Thanks for the link to not606 - I have read some stuff in my time - The thing that stands out is how they really think that their owner only has to wave a magic wand and hey presto we can build a Stadium on Kingswood or Long Lane - Long Lane for Christ sakes !!!! One even wants to be on their own again cos after all they were so successful pre KC Stadium . Mind Blowing.
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Thanks for the link to not606 - I have read some stuff in my time - The thing that stands out is how they really think that their owner only has to wave a magic wand and hey presto we can build a Stadium on Kingswood or Long Lane - Long Lane for Christ sakes !!!! One even wants to be on their own again cos after all they were so successful pre KC Stadium . Mind Blowing.
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| Quote ="Basher"Thanks for the link to not606 - I have read some stuff in my time - The thing that stands out is how they really think that their owner only has to wave a magic wand and hey presto we can build a Stadium on Kingswood or Long Lane - Long Lane for Christ sakes !!!! One even wants to be on their own again cos after all they were so successful pre KC Stadium . Mind Blowing.'"
Yes, I visit their forum on a regular basis. Particularly, when I'm feeling depressed and need a good laugh. What a set of self-righteous loons these posters are. I'm sure the majority of City supporters would be embarrassed by the tripe these people come out with.
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"Yes, I visit their forum on a regular basis. Particularly, when I'm feeling depressed and need a good laugh. What a set of self-righteous loons these posters are. I'm sure the majority of City supporters would be embarrassed by the tripe these people come out with.'"
I am gonna link it and do what you do - Now Richard Briers has gone it will become my Good Life
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| ' originallambrettaman from the not606 - They're not going to suddenly move out, any move would be years away and is highly unlikely anyway. Though if we do move, thanks to your owner, we only pay a percentage of the ticket money over a certain value, so no ticket sales, no money owed, so there is no lease to be paid off.
I find that hard to believe regarding City's lease if they moved out.
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| Quote ="World of Redboy"' originallambrettaman from the not606 - They're not going to suddenly move out, any move would be years away and is highly unlikely anyway. Though if we do move, thanks to your owner, we only pay a percentage of the ticket money over a certain value, so no ticket sales, no money owed, so there is no lease to be paid off.
I find that hard to believe regarding City's lease if they moved out.'"
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| That not606 forum is a dangerous place as it must scramble the brains of the frequent users!!!
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"Nowhere to go?..............................Wrong.
Buy out lease.................................Peanuts!
Planning permission..........................ERYC would go down on bended knees for this for jobs and income!
Allam's haven't got the money...........That's the funniest yet. Allams will be worth £750m this year plus if we go up it will be worth another £150m plus we would be in bed with Tescos, Hilton, Total Fitness etc etc."
That's the best laugh I've had for ages. I'd forgotten that ERYC were so desperate for Assem Allam to build a stadium they'd ignore all due process and planning restrictions and type of use for the land and grant the Planning permission on bended knees & Tesco, Hiltons & Total Fitness were chomping at the bit to hand over their wads of cash to invest. All this on top of Allems supposed net worth which obviously means they have the amount of captial needed for such a project free and available.
The East Yorkshire region must be such a hotbed for investment for all these companies that throwing money into all these developments in Hull & East Yorkshire.........................
The problem is that Assem Allam called HCC bluff last time by threatening to move to Melton and it didnt work, now he is just doing more posturing to try and engineer a way of getting the ownership of the KC.
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