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| Quote ="Kosh"A stadium is only an asset if it brings in more cash than it costs. The KC would not do that as a single occupancy stadium.
A more viable proposition how? If he was talking about getting more punters in he would need a team capable of competing. And he'd need a pretty big crowd increase to match the income from having FC play there.'"
His intentions were to develop the stadium and the surrounding area. I don’t think he ever mentioned a single occupancy stadium.
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| Quote ="wigan_knight"25 year lease for hull fc
50 years for wigan warriors.
SIMPLES.
if they dont want teams sharing then city and latics have worring times.'"
Nope, City have over 85 years of a 100 year lease remaining.
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| In the premier league city what is the percentage of income from the stadium anyone know ?
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| Quote ="Standee"Nope, City have over 85 years of a 100 year lease remaining.'"
If the FA dont want city sharing why there in the prem..then the only solution is to move them and latics to the championships.
they have 0% power when it comes to the rugby teams
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| Quote ="wigan_knight"If the FA dont want city sharing why there in the prem..then the only solution is to move them and latics to the championships.
they have 0% power when it comes to the rugby teams'"
your situation is different to ours though, doesn't Whelan own the stadium, whereas ours is owned by the Council, as landlord, Whelan will have more right to serve you notice (or price you out) than the Council will have in Hulls case.
To be honest, I cant see either wanting to kick a fee paying user out.
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| Just reading the article again it says that guy mobray will be commanting on his 1st live engalnd game for the bbc when england play usa. That game is on itv so I'd imagine the rest of the article is of a similar poorly researched standard.
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| Quote ="Standee"your situation is different to ours though, doesn't Whelan own the stadium, whereas ours is owned by the Council, as landlord, Whelan will have more right to serve you notice (or price you out) than the Council will have in Hulls case.
To be honest, I cant see either wanting to kick a fee paying user out.'"
Dave Whelan was only allowed to build the stadium on the basis that it was for both the football and rugby teams IIRC.
If the football league are not happy with both wigan warriors & hull fc sharing stadia with their beloved football then i'm pretty sure that a ÂŁ20million severance fee per club would suffice. Otherwise both Hull City & Wigan Athletic need to find alternative venues, funded of course by the football league.
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| Quote ="hatty"Dave Whelan was only allowed to build the stadium on the basis that it was for both the football and rugby teams IIRC.
If the football league are not happy with both wigan warriors & hull fc sharing stadia with their beloved football then i'm pretty sure that a ÂŁ20million severance fee per club would suffice. Otherwise both Hull City & Wigan Athletic need to find alternative venues, funded of course by the football league.'"
Exactly.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Exactly.
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Wigan do not have the same covenants on the ground as far as I know, I hope you are right and Whelan gets told where to shove it! (assuming Whelan even agrees)
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| Quote ="Standee"Wigan do not have the same covenants on the ground as far as I know, I hope you are right and Whelan gets told where to shove it! (assuming Whelan even agrees)'"
Trust me its correct, plus Dave Whelan is in a very precarious position at the moment with his beloved Latics on the brink of relegation, he knows only too well that the football league won't give two hoots about them should they get relegated, for that reason alone he doesn't really want to upset the warriors or he could end up with a 25k stadium for a 1st div football side commanding 5k gates
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"The point here though is city will find the funds if the ultimatum is given to them by the premier league. An agreement would be found between FC and City via the SMC and i'm pretty sure we would move out to a new ground through hefty compensation. (it is likely to never happen but if the premier league did instruct City that they had to be sole occupants)'"
And by the time a new Stadium was built for us City may just be playing Grimsby Town.
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| Quote ="Standee"They would have to give at least 3 years notice, and in those three years City would probably get relegated anyway, meaning it was an expenisve and pointless exercise.
Buying the stadium, land (including Walton Street) etc. would be at least ÂŁ80m, FC would want at least ÂŁ250k compensation for every year of the lease left remaining (the full lease, not just the period until the next negotiation), so at 85 years around ÂŁ20m (to pay for the new stadium).
Then there would be the inevitable legal challenges, the fact that the FA could no longer be seen to allow Man U use Old Trafford for Rugby, or Wembley for anything other than football.
More chance of getting DoDo burgers at Catalans away.'"
Your figures are spot on mate - I really dont know why people keep dredging up the same argument- Hull FC and Hull City are going knowhere unless of course we board the Stadium up like the George on Walton Street
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| Quote ="kathy kirk"Your figures are spot on mate - I really dont know why people keep dredging up the same argument- Hull FC and Hull City are going knowhere unless of course we board the Stadium up like the George on Walton Street'"
three words
poor
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trolls
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| Quote ="hatty"Dave Whelan was only allowed to build the stadium on the basis that it was for both the football and rugby teams IIRC.
If the football league are not happy with both wigan warriors & hull fc sharing stadia with their beloved football then i'm pretty sure that a ÂŁ20million severance fee per club would suffice. Otherwise both Hull City & Wigan Athletic need to find alternative venues, funded of course by the football league.'"
well i would love to go back to a rebuilt boulevard, if that was the outcome
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| Quote ="madoggy"well i would love to go back to a rebuilt boulevard, if that was the outcome
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enjoy living in the past
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| Quote ="Standee"enjoy living in the past'"
not living in the past, if it was rebuilt that is surely for the future
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| Quote ="madoggy"not living in the past, if it was rebuilt that is surely for the future'"
moving back to a ground that would be 13,000 max and risk our economic viability, that is the past.
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| Quote ="madoggy"not living in the past, if it was rebuilt that is surely for the future'"
Not enough room there to make a big enough stadium.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Not enough room there to make a big enough stadium.'"
add in parking, transport links and we've really done this to death between us all!!! (again!!!!!)
where's Brough
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| Quote ="Standee"add in parking, transport links and we've really done this to death between us all!!! (again!!!!!)
where's Brough'"
well i havn't been on this forum thing long, so if i drag up old arguments you will have to forgive me, i just miss the place
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| Quote ="Standee"add in parking, transport links and we've really done this to death between us all!!! (again!!!!!)
where's Brough'"
Huddersfield
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| Quote ="madoggy"well i havn't been on this forum thing long, so if i drag up old arguments you will have to forgive me, i just miss the place
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to be honest they aren't arguments, just conversations, most people eventually realise and understand that the limitations of the site would mean we would struggle commerically, and that kind of kills the conversation.
I miss Charlie's Angels, but I wouldn't thank you for a night in a hotel room with them now!
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| Quote ="Standee"to be honest they aren't arguments, just conversations, most people eventually realise and understand that the limitations of the site would mean we would struggle commerically, and that kind of kills the conversation.
I miss Charlie's Angels, but I wouldn't thank you for a night in a hotel room with them now!'"
i can see what you are saying tbf, but i will always miss the place and i would thank you for a night in a hotel room with the charlies angels (2006 remake that is)
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| Quote ="madoggy"i can see what you are saying tbf, but i will always miss the place and i would thank you for a night in a hotel room with the charlies angels (2006 remake that is)
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ah, you see, you're being selective on your timelines, I doubt I'd last a night!
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| Give Hull City the KC and build a new stadium, Share it with KR
Hull FC and Hull KR in one stadium
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