Why would Obst be up for that though? If he drags his heels, he can get his contract paid up by us and be earning a wage from wherever he ends up.

Well thats what were led to believe on here! So whats the problem?

As we are one of the few clubs who can afford to pay transfer fees I think it's safe to say money isn't an issue.

I not why people can't understand that if we pay a player off, his salary still counts on the cap.

This money can be used to sign another player and looks as if we are already close to the cap anyway.

McRae seems to think bringing in another player is an option if/when Obst leaves, so obviously room on the cap.

if Obst leaves to take up another contract i assume there will be no pay off from Hull thus leaving money for another player, if Hull have to pay him off then there would be no funds available for another player.
thats how i see it anyway.

As I've posted above, why is anyone assuming this? Is Obst a complete idiot?

if Obst gets a new contract with another club then why would Hull have to pay him off?

I assume the RFL has rules against players being contracted to two clubs simultaneously

Obst is contracted for the next season at Hull, and it's the club who wants him to leave as we need the cap space, therefore he's fully entitled to have his contract paid up and quite rightly so.

Obst is now in a position where he can get his contract paid up by Hull, and [ithen[/i sign for another club and get paid by them aswell. He's an idiot if that's not what he does, as he'd essentially be ing a year's wages up the wall.

a pay off should it happen would be to cancel the 2nd year of his contract with hull leaving him free to sign with anybody else. he needs the contract he currently has cancelling before he can sign a new one.

as far as i am aware Hull are not pushing Obst out of the door, they are simply saying that you have fallen down the pecking order and are not likely to get much game time and that you are free to negotiate with other clubs should he wish to do so, if he does and agrees terms with another club he will then ask for his release, if he doesn`t he stays its as simple as that.

I'm not sure it works that way, if Obst leaves it will be his decision, and that will therefore render the 2nd year of his Hull contract void. We are not paying him off, we are letting him leave.

Obst is well within his rights to stay, but if he leaves for another club there will be no reason for us to pay him off

If Hull had to pay Obst off they would do it now. What would Hull gain in waiting to pay him off? Are they complete idiots??

Obviously it will be cheaper for hull if Obst finds a new club, he would already be gone and we would have our signing we are waiting for otherwise

Has anyone from Hull actually come out and said Obst can look for another club or are people assuming ?

Quote ="Superbowl Scott"Has anyone from Hull actually come out and said Obst can look for another club or are people assuming ?'" Macrae has, said been discussed with him due to dropping down the pecking order. www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... story.html As for posts above, lets just say he earns 60k at Hull and has been offered 40k elsewere. Obviously he would want the 20k or so making up, hence a payoff

Quote ="Superbowl Scott"Has anyone from Hull actually come out and said Obst can look for another club or are people assuming ?'" Macrae has, said been discussed with him due to dropping down the pecking order. www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... story.html As for posts above, lets just say he earns 60k at Hull and has been offered 40k elsewere. Obviously he would want the 20k or so making up, hence a payoff

Yes, Mcrae has said that him and Obst have had conversations whereby if he wants to look for another club he is free to do so.,

If any club are interested in Obst ? Considering his wages and quota spot

I've never read it so just wondered. Hull will have to pay something to Obst imo.

According to some on here, by waiting to pay him off, Hull can stop themselves getting a reputation for mistreating players, which would supposedly have the knock-on effect of damaging our prospects of making good signings in the future. I don't buy it myself though.

Your second paragraph makes no sense at all, if you'd read my post properly you'd realise that I was responding to people saying that if Obst goes elsewhere we wouldn't have to pay him [uanything[/u, I didn't mention anything about 'cheaper'.

The bottom line is that whether we are trying to force him out the door or not, we need rid of Obst for the cap space far more than he needs to leave. As Hutchie points out, if he does find another club then the very least he'd want would be for us to make up the difference in wages, but, if he can live with the possibility of ending up sitting the season out, he's got us over a barrel for far more than that.

Good work on trying to create an argument that never existed though

If the new club's offer matches his current contract then I would assume it costs Hull [unothing[/u
If the new clubs offer is less than Obsts current deal then he will seek compensation, like anyone would. But maybe Hull could say actually you can stay and rot in the reserves unless you except the loss in wages. Who knows??? but it is possible that he could leave without Hull paying [u[iANYTHING[/i[/u.

Is this easier for you to understand?????????

also there is the side of the argument that says if he decides to stay and fight for a place the lad has never let us down has he and to be honest at times has led us around quite well tbh

I guess it would depend on who the other club are, and what his personal plans are. I don’t know about his family life, but there may be expenses and disruptions in having to move again or travel further. He may have plans to go home after this next season and not want to go to another SL club.

He may get a chance at some silverware if he stays, or at least he may have a better chance than at another club.

Obst has to consider what he wants to do after this next season.
If he wants to get another contract after this next season, he may need to put himself in the window, and may stand a better chance at another club who would give him more game time.

Anyone know what this backrower is like that Rovers have signed?

Sticking a load of exclamation marks on the end doesn't make that post any less pointless.

Why does it matter, nothing to do with us.

Sorry I forgot that a post was only meaningful if it backed up your opinion.

Now I understand why you put esq. on the end of your name as you obviously see yourself as being socially superior to the likes of me