From memory I think the total amount available is 1 point for that criteria and you score the percentage your average attendance against the capacity of the ground. So if you had a 10K stadium and averaged 10 you get the full point, so 5K in the same stadium would get 0.5 of a point or something like that. I reckon we’d have got about 0.4 points. Even Wigan would have only been around 0.6 points that would be easily achievable for us with a decent side.

I'm not sure from what I'm hearing from the council that the bit about the 10,000 stadium is totally correct as at present that bit is 'a moveable Feast' as is its capacity, but otherwise the purchase of the land is well down the road and then its all systems go. The liberal Democrats are on board with the scheme and pushing ahead in the guildhall.

The Fair is a thorny one though because there could be a public backlash on reducing its size and indeed if the Showman's Guild of GB decide to boycott it because of the reduction in size. The fairground layout at present featured around 130 sites that are 'owned' by different showman's families the rights for which have been passed down over the years from generation to generation. Some sites that are allocated separately every year are owned fully by the council whilst the rest (the majority) operate under this ancient convention of family rights.

If the site is reduced, there will be a lot of hand wringing and doom mongering from them as they talk of robbing the community of the fair, its heritage etc. they are a good crowd in general but in the end for them its all about money as it is the biggest earner by far that some get in their whole travelling year. Many I knew told me they lived through the winter from the takings. Whatsmore, an alternative site is completely out of the question as planning and safety legislation deems that any new site for the fair would have to be up to the standards of a current pleasure park with in addition massive car parking provision and with horrendous traffic management issues and anyway development land within the City Boundaries is extremely limited.

So for now as our new owner says we have to concentrate on getting as many as possible through the gates to get those points back.

Playing in the best and possibly the biggest stadium in the country makes a bit of a farce of the percentage of capacity rules in the gradings but at present it is what it is.

Agree also that any stadium would need to be 16k capacity minimum from the start and with scope to expand. As even during a very poor few years we were attaining plus 10K crowds so a £10k capacity gives no room for growth of the fan base or club whatsoever.

So for me moving to a new stadium is not realistic when we can build the fan base with a winning side and more professional off field set up.

It will be a great day if they bin the fair off. The site would generate income for the city if developed rather than sucking £millions out every year

The fairground site is also a complete eyesore for the rest of the year.

I agree to an extent as the Council need to find ways of generating income for the public coffers much like many up and down the Country who are all struggling to fill financial holes. Many are selling off assets such as land and/or buildings however that in itself is shortsighted as once you sold off the silver you have nothing else to bargain with.

I personally feel HCC need to use the land around stadium to develop a leisure area to a) bring people in to the City anot just just the suburbs and b) set it up so it generates a yearly incone for the Council.

As much as I’m one for keeping the city’s traditions I think Hull Fair sees more money going out the city these days than it brings in.

A city the size of Hull should have a good quality leisure complex and area.

Still feel for Hull FC staying at the stadium is the best option as it is still the best stadium in SL.

Thirkhill also commented that the MKM would be home for 'at least the next 10 years' which seemed a sensible time to me. The stadium would be 32 years old by then and we may decide it's a bit long in the tooth by then and want other options.

Agree people who have businesses have told me over the years that the pubs and restaurants have a lull before and after the fair as people are spent up and the fair income of course mostly goes out of town (except for the councils rent fees)

I'd like to see the club go back to targeting one other game that isn't a derby to get a good crowd. One thing that was better in the Kath era than Pearson's era was games against Bradford and Leeds felt like big events, we had crowds of 16-19k for these games 20 or so years ago. The club would give almost daily '12k seats sold' type comms and hype it up. The then new stadium was more of an attraction to away fans than it is now after they've all been many times though.

im positive that Cartwright can instill some discipline into the team and get them fit so we can commpete and pull us out of the bottom two.
Certainly not positive about the squad Myler has put together.
I want entertainment and excitement on the field not looking accross to see our new owners and thinking well at least we have some money in the club

Think you will find the Turk has lost his love for the club since his appointment as vice chair at Fenerbahce.
I doubt any of the proposed plans will go ahead especially as now the club are struggling and likely to ditch their latest coach before too long.
He doesnt have the money in any case to develop the plans and its more likely if relegation becomes a real possibility he will try to sell the club
If that plays out it becomes a real opportunity for Pearson and his new pals to move into football and put to bed all this new stadium nonsense

Some chit-chat here from City fans on the stadium/AP https://not606.com/threads/hull-fc-havi ... 1/page-108

Some chit-chat here from City fans on the stadium/AP https://not606.com/threads/hull-fc-havi ... 1/page-108

Quote ="Mrs Barista"Some chit-chat here from City fans on the stadium/AP https://not606.com/threads/hull-fc-havi ... 1/page-108'" What a load of tosh

Quote ="Mrs Barista"Some chit-chat here from City fans on the stadium/AP https://not606.com/threads/hull-fc-havi ... 1/page-108'" What a load of tosh

Dave Woods to Jordan Abdull at the pre-season dinner last night:

"Have you been on the Ozempic?"

Just watched the extended version of the forum on YouTube. Worth viewing, some interesting stuff in the extra 15/20 minutes or so.

Good to hear that Thirkill had spoken to Nigel Wood who told him that there are three big clubs in Super League. Wigan, Leeds and Hull FC.

Am I getting carried away in thinking this combination of new team, new. coach and backroom staff and renewed optimism around the club can make us into a top half of the table team this year?

Yes, I think you are, still think we last some quality for a top 6. You never know, but I don't see it.

I've booked my tickets for Wembley and Old Trafford

Think the new combination is a huge step in the right direction of getting us back to where we want to be. Nigel Wood is right in what he said to Thirkill. The untapped potential is massive.

Dread to think of the mood of the fanbase without these changes.

Also think Myler will be a real asset. We’ve needed someone to be bullish about the club for years, and to fight our corner. Having his father in law as an owner will make it even more personal.

Thought it was good that the mood of the fans was that eighth is a realistic place to finish next year. Must be reassuring for the new owners to have a passionate, yet realistic, fanbase.

I would be surprised if they didn't finish higher than that with the new coach and new players

Think Thirkill was spot on, even if we do everything right that we can control the competition to finish 8th or above is massive, it means we have to get our house in order and hope someone takes their eye off the ball or has bad luck with injuries etc. Even Huddersfield who we are now expected to finish above by many now still have some quality players, Salford every year punch well above their weight and Leigh, Leeds and Catalan potentially have trophy winning sides on their day. Wigan, Rovers and St’s will be way above the rest.

Optimism doesnt suddenly catapult the team into a top 6 or 8 position.
The squad has been strengthened and experience added but is still poor quality,coupled with ageing players and a distinct lack of pace.
I think with Cartwrights coaching adding fitness and discipline we will keep out of the bottom two but all teams in S/L have been strengthened and i dont see a really weak team there at all.
Even Wakefield will surprise a few

The key thing is if we are sorting the basics out, the fitness, the discipline, the defence and then if we are losing games by a try or two because our slow centres couldn't finish the break off, then I'd say fair enough sign some top centres for 2026 and jobs a good un.

It's getting away from the 50 point thumpings that is important for the fans morale, and also not downing tools after the end of July. The Cup is more of a chance for sucess even a day out at a Semi final would feel like a dream after these last few years.

Put this on a post a few months back but I'm not bothered about our league position this year. Obviously I would like it to be higher than 11th/joint bottom but it's more about getting our house in order for me. Getting the fitness and conditioning sorted, improving the injury situation, getting the right attitude/culture/mentality into the club so we are at least competing in games every week even if we end up losing more than we win.

A change of ownership doesn't really alter my thoughts on that. It gives me optimism (more than I have had in a long time) that we have a bright future ahead of us but we still have to fix all the things I mentioned above and a whole lot more. I'm loving the positivity coming out of the club at the moment and it sounds like we have already addressed things and started to make the improvements needed but I'm also accepting that it's not necessarily going to equate to points on the table next season. I'm fine with that. Let's get the foundations sorted in 2025 and go from there.