We heard you the first 500 times TBH.

I'm not taking anybodies word for anything. I've already said, more than once, that it wouldn't surprise me if we were well below cap. I'm challenging the figure, not the idea.

I do. As a supporter, my first priority is that the club survives, which it wouldn't have done without the merger. Obviously, then, the strides made off the pitch in terms of a £1million improvement to the finances since 2004 have been vital.

My second priority is success on the pitch. If everyone else is at or close to the cap and we are short to that extent, as a customer I'm being short-changed as we're not giving ouselves the best chance of that. We're paying the same price as other SL clubs (in fact more than most, but that's OK given our facilities) but getting less of our money spent on the team. For a club with our numbers of supporters and levels of merchandise turnover that's not acceptable.

If this were true, what do people think our board's agenda is exactly? They won't be making much cash out of the business on an ongoing basis (stories of Kath's salary aside) as I understand interest on their loans is linked to base rate. They may be trying to improve the value of the business for onward sale, but surely they must recognise that 2 finishes outside the play-offs is eroding the value of the club as fast as profits are increasing it, so no one really benefits.

Which part? Or both?

The figure quoted by the brother is correct.

Not exactly a free market system tho is it. If they start charging £80 for shirts you aren't gonna just go and buy the cheaper rovers one are you. I'd definately rather complain and whinge about it.

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Well put.

This isn't an issue to be dismissed out of hand as the implications, if true, are enormously important.

At the same time I'm reluctant to run around shouting about the sky falling without at least some evidence. Although I accept that's going to be difficult to provide.


I have no idea. If it were a deliberate policy rather than as a result of misfortune/incompetence with recruitment and retention then it's a frankly baffling one.

You do realise that using big bold type adds no credence whatsoever to your argument, don't you?

IF it is true then the board need to tell us why this happend and why they lied to us.............Until we know the truth its a waste of time going on about it and trying to prove who has the biggest source.

Must admit I'm struggling to see how. I could see us being as much as £300k short but I'm not sure where the other £200k would come from. Some of the players that have left over the last two season must have been on astronomic salaries.

Who is your source then?

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Make's me feel better though

Its difficult to see how I agree. Unless of course we haven't been at the cap limit for a few years?

If we have spent the salary cap, then many are overpaid!

That's been my assumption for a number of years TBH.

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When were we last pinged for being over the cap? Was it 2005?

Who would be the big money earners who've left since then? Possibilities would be Crooke, Tingha, Sing, Kearney, Dykes, Carvell?

If you look at this season...

Thorman will be on less than Dykes.
Carvell missing.
Crocker no show.
Lauaki not being paid his full wage?
Money saved on Byrne?

Anything else?

You are getting to be one boring get on here.........i hate the coach and board as much as anyone but dont have to gob it off all the time on here.

Cooke?
King on at least half his wages?
Horne on half his wages?

With all due respect, getting close to full cap with what's happened with our recruitment this season would be impossible.

Shouldn't be anywhere near £500k short though.

Good for you , make a change to listen to the Sh1t you spout if you don't like it don't contribute

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If you dont like my poop....dont contribute then.

Where have i said i accept crap every week....i know you dont but do you have to waffle about it on every bloody thread.......face facts...as long as we make profits...they are going bloody nowhere.

Wrong make enough noise and get off our s and do summat about it,we need to make our feelings known

How....by giving our passes up......i for 1 aint doing that.

If we do that then that will affect our cap as well as we wont be putting anymore into the coffers thus ballsing us up even more.

What, and end up with someone like Walker in charge? No thanks.