Grix was definitely there. He was running messages to the players. Gene was next to Smith

The last Hull player to score a try at home against Rovers was Luke Gale in 2022 and the last to kick a goal at home to them was Marc Sneyd in 2021.

That's depressing reading so early on into the season. We'll get pumped

We’d have got pumped with our first team to be fair

Said last night after sat watching again with head in hands in disbelief at what I was seeing that I fear we will replicate that of Wakefield last year.

Any slight optimism of chink of hope I harboured for this season was rapidly dispatched before halftime.

I hope we stick with Smith until he has totally revamped our squad. Sacking him before the end of the season would be counter productive in my opinion.
The only national Managers I would replace Smith , is Wane, McNamara or Rowley, I wouldn't trust the hierarchy to srlect another unproven Manager from the NRL.

London at home in two weeks with potential suspensions and injuries, I’m not even confident about that.

It would be typical of Hull to sign a New Zealand international hooker but have him as our fourth or fifth choice in that position.

Just wish the club would be honest, explain there thought process that this is a 3/4 year rebuild. We all know that we won't win anything for the next few years, I just want to know there is a long term plan in place.

No better coach to do a rebuild, he manged it at Hudds, Leeds, Warrington and started it at Rovers.

Maybe Jake Connor will have a fall out with Watson and he can come back (before round 5) and save our season....

Agree, but in sport patience is in short supply. If we haven't made any improvement however marginal he will have to go. In fact I suspect he will fall on his sword rather than wait for the inevitable.

He has a house on Kingswood. Well that was the rumour anyway

Can't believe one match in and some are saying Smith job could be in danger. Yes last year was crap and certainly not the result we wanted. But he said from day 1 it's gonna be a long job. Jeez some would have us change the coach every 6 months. Madness

Yes we'd write this season off, next season too as the new coach would be using Smith's squad, then 2026 would be a rebuild with new coach's signings - unless we sack that one too of course.

We cannot keep changing the coach every year or two.

We need to try and find an halfback at least on loan,if we don’t ,then we are gonna have a season to forget again

Smith needs to be given the time to mold his team which we all know isn't going to happen over night .
Theres also the financial side that is restricting us making any quality additions .

Other clubs werent in the situation of having to pay expensive rent on a stadium despite not being able to play and then later play with crowd restrictions. Wigan and Hudds rent a stadium but have rich owners.

The only other club that was in a similar situation was Salford and look at their finances.

I appreciate this but he's now two off seasons in, and not sure if I've seen much improvement compared to the Hodgson era

In Smith's defence, he hasn't been given the resources, no marquee signings, no mid season signings. Alot less cap than Hodgson, plus he inherited the mess both Radford and Hodgson did.

Saying all that, I'd expect by the end of yhe season to see some improvements.

I'd honestly be happy at the moment if he could sort out our awful discipline.

He talked about it last season, he spoke about it in preseason but yet our discipline has not improved.
It's schoolboy stuff why can't he sort it?
Getting pinged for not square at marker, laying on, offsides.
All basics that haven't been corrected or eradicated.

When you change a manager you do it to look for improvement and to change things that aren't working.

We have seen none of that and things have steadily got worse. We are no further on than when Radford left, anyone can see that.

Good coaches get the best out of their players.. ie Brian Smith, with a bog standard team.. just my opinion.. last night was just unaccepable.

No offence but that must be up there with our weakest ever SL line ups.

100%.. Nowhere near cap. 500k under is the figure i've heard.

Agree, I don't mind them giving the odd offside penalty away if the line speed and intensity is there but it wasn't it was through being gassed because we gave away so much ball and so many repeat sets they couldn't frontload any energy for strong defence.