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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Can you not comprehend English?
Of course they have claimed the squad is stronger, as every coach does.
I've asked you and UllFC where they said Radford inherited a "disaster of a squad and has had to start from nothing".
They didn't, it's just typical of the OTT rubbish posted on here.'"
Can YOU not comprehend English is the question, if you cannot read between the lines then you've zero grasp of understanding the English language and what is being said in a non direct way, wake up FFS!
Radford and Pearson have effectively laid the blame at Gentle (and SM) door since Radford's appointment and in almost every single interview there has being a mention of it in one form or another, that you insist that hasn't being said is your failing to understand not others whom can clearly see through the BS being spun by both protagonists.
I hope Radford fails, and fail he will (oh we might nudge 5th or 6th whoopdefookingdo) but he's a man that goes back on his word, he's a bastabber and a bully. Secondly even with a 17 full of internationals we still wouldn't make a final as he hasn't learnt dick, still makes the same old mistakes every fooking weekend and still hasn't got a clue on how to improve basic core skills, still can't improve our attack at the critical points, nor improve players in areas they need.
He can't even accept the failings lie right at his door, he's utterly deluded and it would appear some fans equally so thinking this turnip is going to turn us around.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Can YOU not comprehend English is the question, if you cannot read between the lines then you've zero grasp of understanding the English language and what is being said in a non direct way, wake up FFS!
Radford and Pearson have effectively laid the blame at Gentle (and SM) door since Radford's appointment and in almost every single interview there has being a mention of it in one form or another, that you insist that hasn't being said is your failing to understand not others whom can clearly see through the BS being spun by both protagonists.
I hope Radford fails, and fail he will (oh we might nudge 5th or 6th whoopdefookingdo) but he's a man that goes back on his word, he's a bastabber and a bully. Secondly even with a 17 full of internationals we still wouldn't make a final as he hasn't learnt dick, still makes the same old mistakes every fooking weekend and still hasn't got a clue on how to improve basic core skills, still can't improve our attack at the critical points, nor improve players in areas they need.
He can't even accept the failings lie right at his door, he's utterly deluded and it would appear some fans equally so thinking this turnip is going to turn us around.'"
Tough words, care to substantiate any of that?
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Can YOU not comprehend English is the question, if you cannot read between the lines then you've zero grasp of understanding the English language and what is being said in a non direct way, wake up FFS!
Radford and Pearson have effectively laid the blame at Gentle (and SM) door since Radford's appointment and in almost every single interview there has being a mention of it in one form or another, that you insist that hasn't being said is your failing to understand not others whom can clearly see through the BS being spun by both protagonists.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Can YOU not comprehend English is the question, if you cannot read between the lines then you've zero grasp of understanding the English language and what is being said in a non direct way, wake up FFS!
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Was this deliberately ironic?
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Got to say I agree with the ones saying that whilst there have never been any direct accusations aimed at Gentle (or Bomber) there has certainly been inferences that our problems are their fault.
Just for example, this is from AP's programme notes last year ( www.hullfc.com/article/35357/rea ... atch-notes):
Quote "There have been massive issues to address of late which are beyond the public domain that should have been dealt with long ago, and were unfortunately inherited by Lee and Motu Tony. Those issues will take time to sort, but they have already made huge advances along the right path.
"Both of them are now making inroads into moulding their own squad for next season and we have some exciting signings confirmed and some close to being confirmed."'"
Now, that being said, I don't agree that the latest article makes any such inferences. At least not from LR. The closest we get from Radford IMO is:
Quote "When you look at the squad I inherited to the squad I will be putting out next year, I think everyone can agree that there has been vast improvements,"'"
Now you can look at that "inherited" part as an inference that he was left with a bad squad when he started out that he was not responsible for. Or you could look at it as LR simply saying he believes he's made improvements on the squad he started out with without any implications being made regarding the state of that squad.
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Got to say I agree with the ones saying that whilst there have never been any direct accusations aimed at Gentle (or Bomber) there has certainly been inferences that our problems are their fault.
Just for example, this is from AP's programme notes last year ( www.hullfc.com/article/35357/rea ... atch-notes):
Quote "There have been massive issues to address of late which are beyond the public domain that should have been dealt with long ago, and were unfortunately inherited by Lee and Motu Tony. Those issues will take time to sort, but they have already made huge advances along the right path.
"Both of them are now making inroads into moulding their own squad for next season and we have some exciting signings confirmed and some close to being confirmed."'"
Now, that being said, I don't agree that the latest article makes any such inferences. At least not from LR. The closest we get from Radford IMO is:
Quote "When you look at the squad I inherited to the squad I will be putting out next year, I think everyone can agree that there has been vast improvements,"'"
Now you can look at that "inherited" part as an inference that he was left with a bad squad when he started out that he was not responsible for. Or you could look at it as LR simply saying he believes he's made improvements on the squad he started out with without any implications being made regarding the state of that squad.
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| Quote ="Dave K."I agree with everything said in the article. Where does he blame Gentle? He just says his squad will be better next season than the one he got from Gentle, I have to agree.
I'm no fan if Radford, but you are making a big deal out of a nothing story.'"
The problem is he said that about this season also
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| I fully agree with the others on here that this is nothing more then b.s. and spin. Still blaming the previous regime for our current failings and predicament and setting the bar of success very low.
It buys Radford more time and offers optimism for next season to the fans who fall hook line and sinker for the nonsense the club churns out at times.
Pearson himself has said to me via e mail that the only mistake He made was appointing gentle so fook knows what he sees in Radford to think he is the messiah.
Radford cannot improve himself or the players any further and all this improved recruitment will do is cover and hide his coaching deficiencies with better players and God forbid it buys him a contract extension.
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| Quote ="Bombed Out"I fully agree with the others on here that this is nothing more then b.s. and spin. Still blaming the previous regime for our current failings and predicament and setting the bar of success very low.
It buys Radford more time and offers optimism for next season to the fans who fall hook line and sinker for the nonsense the club churns out at times.
Pearson himself has said to me via e mail that the only mistake He made was appointing gentle so fook knows what he sees in Radford to think he is the messiah.
Radford cannot improve himself or the players any further and all this improved recruitment will do is cover and hide his coaching deficiencies with better players and God forbid it buys him a contract extension.'"
Exactly.
If we finish top next year with improved recruitment that'll only be papering over the cracks IMO.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Exactly.
If we finish top next year with improved recruitment that'll only be papering over the cracks IMO.'"
I assume you are trying to be sarcastic
If you don't like Radford or the club being criticised then reply with a meaningful post.
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| silly apologists, apologising. Radford is useless, we need a quality coach, and Motu can get a taxi with him too
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| Quote ="HullFC_1865"silly apologists, apologising. Radford is useless, we need a quality coach, and Motu can get a taxi with him too'"
Nobody is apologising for him. Most (maybe even all, except friends and family) supporters think Radford isn't up to the job. However there is zero chance of him leaving soon. He will end the season as head coach and start next season as head coach. Constant hand-wringing and complaining and going over the same points on every thread will not change that.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Nobody is apologising for him. Most (maybe even all, except friends and family) supporters think Radford isn't up to the job. However there is zero chance of him leaving soon. He will end the season as head coach and start next season as head coach. Constant hand-wringing and complaining and going over the same points on every thread will not change that.'"
do you really want me to waste my time quoting you, and others, making excuses for Lee? seriously, there is a village in East Hull missing an idiot called Lee, simple fact, he promised to walk, he has no honour.
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| Quote ="HullFC_1865"do you really want me to waste my time quoting you, and others, making excuses for Lee? seriously, there is a village in East Hull missing an idiot called Lee, simple fact, he promised to walk, he has no honour.'"
I like you to find me quotes from all these apologists, I've no doubt they are a couple, but if say that 95% of Hull fans think he currently isn't up to the job. The difference is that most don't have a moan about the same thing every single day, making a big deal about a nothing article in which everything said is correct.
He isn't going anywhere, so we might as well get behind the club and hope he can turn it around, I think he needs some help, I'd like someone like Kear as assistant coach.
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| Quote ="HullFC_1865"do you really want me to waste my time quoting you, and others, making excuses for Lee? seriously'"
You're only saying that because you know you can't. Only one or two posters on here have ever made excuses for Radford and COYH is certainly not one of them.
For reference, not getting your knickers in a knot at every available opportunity does not constitute 'making excuses'.
Quote ="HullFC_1865"there is a village in East Hull missing an idiot called Lee.'"
Classy. The very definition of a Keyboard Warrior.
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| Quote ="bonaire"I assume you are trying to be sarcastic
If you don't like Radford or the club being criticised then reply with a meaningful post.'"
I've put my point across many times both highly critical and supportive. I don't feel the need to trot out the same boring crap on every thread day in and day out like I read on here from the likes of yourself, bumpy and knowledge-free standee. You're as boring as our early season attack structure and tactics. The best thing about winning isn't the 2 points gained it's the fact that you lot go quiet for a week. Hope that means enough for you.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Can you not comprehend English?
Of course they have claimed the squad is stronger, as every coach does.
I've asked you and UllFC where they said Radford inherited a "disaster of a squad and has had to start from nothing".
They didn't, it's just typical of the OTT rubbish posted on here.'"
some of us do have work to attend you know...
Just a few of Adam Pearson interview highlights over the last 12 months:
"At the end of last season I was very disappointed. I didn’t feel the coach (Peter Gentle) had maximised the playing strength at all and we had just given up in the play-offs."
"We have had a number of excuses here at the club in the last couple of years now and we know those excuses have to stop."
"Looking back, transition is exactly what we’ve had because we’ve cleared out a number of players who were brought in by Shaun McRae and Peter Gentle who proved just not to be good enough. That is extremely disappointing and I feel it was almost a wasted two years"
"When I look at the money we wasted on transfer fees for players it does. We let Andy Lynch go when I had just paid a £50,000 transfer fee for him, so there were some strange decisions. There was a large transfer fee and contract for Joe Arundel and players came in on big contracts who just haven’t delivered."
[urlhttp://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Adam-Pearson-Hull-FC-Q-2015-pivotal-year-want-win/story-23056073-detail/story.html[/url
if you're still not convinced he's Pearson on film, first question will do the trick...
[urlhttp://www.hullfclive.tv/interviews/feature-ask-adam/[/url
'Do you regret sacking Peter Gentle?' "No I wish I'd done it earlier really, because obviously Radders is having to sort out quite a lot of the issues he left behind"
Its clear to me in that both interviews are attempts at deflecting blame from himself and Radford by making out that 2012 & 2013 were poor, disappointing years for the club. When the reality is 2012 & 2013 were much better seasons compared to what we had under Agar and last year under Radford. That excuse was already wearing thin back in October 2014 when the HDM interview was given, but for the club to be still trying to paint the same picture in August 2015 is ridiculous IMO. Judging from the mixed opinions on this thread I am far from alone in thinking that.
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| Quote ="UllFC"My patience has ran-out with Gentle. Last season I thought he did a good job considering the injuries we had, and the makeshift squad with players like Tony Martin making up the numbers.
but this season has been an absolute disaster, our worst since 2009 IMO, and not even a CC win should be allowed to cover up how bad the league campaign has been.
His signings have been awful , Arundle & Crooks aren't even making the team, Galea wasn't needed, Ellis has been average (but at least improving) Johnson is a decent squad player but not exactly one that sets Super League alight, only Holdsworth & Miller have been positive additions. Players like Aspinwall, Martin & McGoldrick were dismissed as being fill-in players last season, but we got a lot more out of them than this years signings!
the forwards are too light, and players we previously relied on heavily like Yeaman, Lynch & Whiting are another year older and haven't reached their usual standards.
our attack is not better than the Agar days, and at times it is even worse as we don't have the 'pass it to Manu and hope he knocks 3 players over' tactic to use anymore.
Gentle seems incapable of motivating his team to play 'run of the mill' SL games, we are capable of beating the likes of Wire, Leeds & Catalan....but then the week after lose to Widnes, draw with London etc ...............'"
Not too keen on Gentle either, by the looks of it. Why do you bother??
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I won't be buying a pass though as I'm tired of being let down every year (for the last 7/8 anyway) and I fear LR simply hasn't got the skill set to turn the squad which is good on paper into a team that can challenge for trophies.
Articles like the one in the HDM is just more of the same for me, every year its the same old rhetoric.
I guess there isn't much else they can say though.
I really hope I'm proved wrong next year and LR blossoms into the coach AP thinks he can be, and we can play an entertaining brand of rugby and challenge and compete with the top 4 (I say challenge and compete - not better before anyone jumps on that)
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| Quote ="ccs"Not too keen on Gentle either, by the looks of it. Why do you bother??'"
you went all the way through my history to find that, you stalking me?
I'm also happy to admit with hindsight I was wrong! He wasn't the right coach for us long-term, but how was I to know at the time we'd replace him with Radford!
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| Quote ="UllFC"some of us do have work to attend you know...
Just a few of Adam Pearson interview highlights over the last 12 months:
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So he hasn't really said that Radford inherited a disaster of a squad and has had to start from nothing?
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"So he hasn't really said that Radford inherited a disaster of a squad and has had to start from nothing?'"
you know full well I was paraphrasing, anyone with half a brain can see what Pearson is implying with his comments
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| Quote ="UllFC"you went all the way through my history to find that, you stalking me?
I'm also happy to admit with hindsight I was wrong! He wasn't the right coach for us long-term, but how was I to know at the time we'd replace him with Radford!'" It didn't take long, about a minute, knowing full well that I'd find something.
Mr Gentle wasn't so popular in 2013, you're not the only one to mention it.
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Mr Gentle wasn't so popular in 2013, you're not the only one to mention it.
Anyway, I thought making excuses wasn't allowed?'"
Still a bit creepy though isn't it, trawling back through 2 years of someone's post history, still if its what you want to do with your Wednesday nights...
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| Quote ="UllFC"Still a bit creepy though isn't it, trawling back through 2 years of someone's post history, still if its what you want to do with your Wednesday nights...'"
But it's OK for you to trawl back for Pearson quotes?
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