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| Quote ="Standee"so is he not the best young british coach in SL now?'"
why has he been fired?
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| Quote ="Smiggs"It's not just about the result against Catalans (I expected to lose due to their recent form) it's more to do with his overall record and especially this season. 7 defeats from 10 is simply not good enough and just 4 from the last 14 is appalling, he should be long gone.'"
I cant disagree, its not pretty reading is it and to be fair to the BOD given their history of nailing coaches to the cross he is i guess lucky they are being loyal and giving him time i guess but agree it isnt good reading, or watching at times
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"why has he been fired?'"
no, unfortunately, but he should have been weeks ago.
you keep trotting out how wonderful he is, not me.
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| Quote ="Smiggs"It's not just about the result against Catalans (I expected to lose due to their recent form) it's more to do with his overall record and especially this season. 7 defeats from 10 is simply not good enough and just 4 wins from the last 14 is appalling, he should be long gone.'"
Think he will be after the weekend.
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| Quote ="Standee"so is he not the best young british coach in SL now?'"
How did we get to that?
I think the sooner he goes the better for everyone, the current situation is no good for anyone.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"I think you're right, I always said he would be judged around easter and should we lose to Rovers the pressure will really intensify, add then defeats to Wire away and maybe Saints at home and his position could well be untenable.'"
I am under no illusion given what happened after the match Paul that the pressure is most definately ON in capital letters, I think given current form you would say we are looking down the barrel of three bad loses and at that point i would also agree if that is the case at that point that it would be difficult to disagree with your prognosis mate!
BUT youknow pro sport is a weird place isnt it and how things can turn around in a few minutes is crazy, as much as i hate it who would have said Stoke city would have clacked five past in the cup semi?? these things happen and a good win against HKR could change a great deal...
i still think the signing of martin could have a massive bearing on how things pan out mate
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| Quote ="PAUL M"How did we get to that?
I think the sooner he goes the better for everyone, [uthe current situation is no good for anyone[/u.'"
including Rich!
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| Quote ="PAUL M"How did we get to that?
I think the sooner he goes the better for everyone, the current situation is no good for anyone.'"
I said a few weeks ago it will get messy Paul...Know-one wants that or deserves that really, Rich is a nice bloke, however I wish he would just walk away now, today!...as it could be very humiliating for him on Friday especially with the cameras there, even if we win on Friday, this point will come again and again I am afraid.
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"including Rich!'"
I like Rich Agar, always have, however I feel he has let me down..he said at the beginning if he failed he would walk away, now his win ratio is evidence of his failure yet he is still here!!basically I feel he has deceived me and 1000s of others.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"I said a few weeks ago it will get messy Paul...Know-one wants that or deserves that really, Rich is a nice bloke, however I wish he would just walk away now, today!...as it could be very humiliating for him on Friday especially with the cameras there, even if we win on Friday, this point will come again and again I am afraid.
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Don't think it will go on for much longer, he's on borrowed time now imo and two defeats over easter will seal his fate. If we beat Rovers it will give him so life but I don't see him being around too much longer now. Unless we start winning!
He's a good bloke so I hope he is not left to linger too long and take abuse from the terraces.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Don't think it will go on for much longer, he's on borrowed time now imo and two defeats over easter will seal his fate. If we beat Rovers it will give him so life but I don't see him being around too much longer now. Unless we start winning!
[uHe's a good bloke so I hope he is not left to linger too long and take abuse from the terraces[/u.'"
unlike one or two immediately before him, rich has worked his bag off , put in more time and VT time etc than anyone in the game i know but for what ever reason it isnt happening at present
all we can hope for is that we trounce HKR, then get a result at the wire and then Shaun does a number on his previous employers too
all fans want that I am sure
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"a good win against HKR could change a great deal...
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Why would it change anything? We have beaten 3 teams.
1, Crusaders who are absolutely awful
2, Bradford, hit and miss team who like us are missing more than they are hitting. They have had 50 put on them twice and victories over Crusaders/Wakey/Quins and Cas show they are a long way off being a good team.
3, Quins, Had the early season roll that we have been accustomed to getting for a few years and have started sliding down the league dramatically.
All 3 teams we have beaten are currently in the bottom half of the league and have 3 of the 4 worst defences.
If we beat Rovers that will make 4 teams in the bottom half we have beaten, if that is enough to change things a great deal i am staggered to say the least.
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| Quote ="hullbg"Why would it change anything? We have beaten 3 teams.
1, Crusaders who are absolutely awful
2, Bradford, hit and miss team who like us are missing more than they are hitting. They have had 50 put on them twice and victories over Crusaders/Wakey/Quins and Cas show they are a long way off being a good team.
3, Quins, Had the early season roll that we have been accustomed to getting for a few years and have started sliding down the league dramatically.
All 3 teams we have beaten are currently in the bottom half of the league and have 3 of the 4 worst defences.
If we beat Rovers that will make 4 teams in the bottom half we have beaten, if that is enough to change things a great deal i am staggered to say the least.'"
I know what you mean but as you know a win in the derby in Hull is like a world cup final win to the winners and the bottom of the Pacific for the losers, a win could be the mental pep they need, oh i dunno i guess i am trying to see light in a dark tunnel at present ,
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| Quote ="hullbg"
If we beat Rovers that will make 4 teams in the bottom half we have beaten, if that is enough to change things a great deal i am staggered to say the least.'"
Keep the faith. We're training well. If we can raise us bar on the island and start to aim up, we can start to climb the league table. We're playing like a top 8 team, so it's only a matter of time before we're in the top 8.
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"I know what you mean but as you know a win in the derby in Hull is like a world cup final win to the winners and the bottom of the Pacific for the losers, a win could be the mental pep they need, oh i dunno i guess i am trying to see light in a dark tunnel at present ,'"
It is that type of mentality that annoys me (not saying that is your mentality by the way) A win against Rovers should be taken in the right context, yes it is good to get one over on them but when it is 10th v 11th it really should not be meaning too much to supporters.
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Why do people always that word 'us'. What does the way he talks have to do with anything. Not having a pop at you RG it's just that a lot of people do it and I don't see the point in it.
Not sure Agar has ever used the term 'island' either?
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Why do people always that word 'us'. What does the way he talks have to do with anything. Not having a pop at you RG it's just that a lot of people do it and I don't see the point in it.
Not sure Agar has ever used the term 'island' either?'"
Because it's bloody annoying.
I'm not expecting BBC English but would like words to be used in their proper context and not as some colloquial, banjo-playing, West Riding hick sees fit.
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Because it's bloody annoying.
I'm not expecting BBC English but would like words to be used in their proper context and not as some colloquial, banjo-playing, West Riding hick sees fit.'"
Hmm I remember Sharp getting abuse for the way he conducted his press conferences, maybe the Hull fans just like finding ways to attack the coach when they don't like him?
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Hmm I remember Sharp getting abuse for the way he conducted his press conferences, maybe the Hull fans just like finding ways to attack the coach when they don't like him?'"
Strange innit?
When you're not performing, even the bits you do well tend to receive criticism. That's a sad fact of life.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Hmm I remember Sharp getting abuse for the way he conducted his press conferences, maybe the Hull fans just like finding ways to attack the coach when they don't like him?'"
Exactly right.
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Strange innit?
When you're not performing, even the bits you do well tend to receive criticism. That's a sad fact of life.'"
I guess, I just think it's a low blow. Attack him for the coaching side of things but leave out the personal stuff. Just my opinion mind.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"I guess, I just think it's a low blow. Attack him for the coaching side of things but leave out the personal stuff. Just my opinion mind.'"
Agreed and that's the sad thing for me in all of this. He maybe should walk away but how many of us would walk away from a paid job? If we lose on Friday it will get nasty and personal and although its inevitable it's not very nice, he's human after all and he's probably hurting as much as any of us.
I think like many people have said before that he could actually be an asset to the club but more in a role of an assistant or DOR not head coach but that's unlikely to happen.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Hmm I remember Sharp getting abuse for the way he conducted his press conferences, maybe the Hull fans just like finding ways to attack the coach when they don't like him?'"
Or maybe they find ways to attack the coach when his side is playing poorly?
agar = dead man walking - I've convinced myself of this today
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Why do people always that word 'us'. What does the way he talks have to do with anything. Not having a pop at you RG it's just that a lot of people do it and I don't see the point in it.'"
Just to take the p*ss out of him, I suppose. Like people might mock a politician for a particular turn of phrase or idiosyncrasy. It will happen if you're in the public eye, unpopular and and have an obvious way of speaking that lends itself to being mocked.
Quote ="PAUL M"Not sure Agar has ever used the term 'island' either?'"
It wasn't necessarily [ijust[/i him I was mocking.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Hmm I remember Sharp getting abuse for the way he conducted his press conferences, maybe the Hull fans just like finding ways to attack the coach when they don't like him?'"
Nail on head.
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