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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"If you actually look at the FC side since Agar took over he has very rarely blooded a young player and always prefers to field an established name.'"
Even worse when you consider the injury problems we had in his first 2 years in charge
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| Quote ="garry brindley"It was a tongue in cheek remark based on the fact that they are both lightweight-looking looking wingers whose primary asset is speed, and are/were billed as the next sensation when they came through. It's a fact though that that he's done very little of note in the first team so far to suggest he will live up to his billing, thank goodness he's got Rich Agar to help develop him though, eh?'"
Thats what worries me Gary.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"Will Sharp - The new Hull FC scapegoat.'"
Amen brother!!!
What is it with some of our fans and their apparent lack of appreciation of a Wingers role in the game. Blacklock and Sing were singled out by some without just cause for a similar thing for what Sharp is bing blamed for now.
Sharp is actually rarely out of position. He cannot simply hug the wing, otherwise there is too big a gap from his centre. His centre on the other hand has the benefit of having a collegue either side of him, the winger doesn't. As the winger has to move in field to prevent large gaps appearing, he is hoping the cover defence can cover him or that someones brain doesnt explode and they come running out of the line.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"Will Sharp - The new Hull FC scapegoat.'"
Seems that way, had three threads on him within a week now.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Seems that way, had three threads on him within a week now.'"
But he hasnt played that well though as he? Granted his centre has left him high and dry a few times but he also hasnt done himslef any favours with some of his half hearted attempts at catching balls and tackling. I wouldnt go as far as saying hes a scapegoat but hes a weak link in the side at present imo.
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"But he hasnt played that well though as he? Granted his centre has left him high and dry a few times but he also hasnt done himslef any favours with [usome of his half hearted attempts at catching balls[/u and tackling. I wouldnt go as far as saying hes a scapegoat but hes a weak link in the side at present imo.'"
I remember 2 from Friday. Care to point out some others?
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Seems that way, had three threads on him within a week now.'"
Some fans are pointing out that hes playing poorly and it stands out in games more than other players...the majority of fans that i have been sat near in the games that i have been to have commented at some point about sharps performances....hardly being made a scapegoat just an observation..
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| I've heard it all now blaming a winger for 3 men overlaps... seriously!!
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| If he's as bad as you all say then I hope you play him.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"If he's as bad as you all say then I hope you play him.
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Whether he plays or not, you'll still be targeting our right side defence. If you don't then may I suggest buying Potter a new labrador & white stick
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| I wondered how long it would be before people started laying into Sharp. Don't forget it's a learning curve for him as he's gone from playing in front of 3,000 Quins fans in London to the pressure of playing for a club with massive support like Hull FC.
Yes of course he's going to make mistakes, but he's playing in an average side and I don't think we can make him a scapegoat or judge him just yet.
I'd have swapped Sharp for Craig Hall as a winger anyday last year. We all saw how Hall's confidence shot down when Agar dropped him, I just hope he keeps faith with Sharp as he's youngish, non-quota and keen to learn.
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| Quote ="Panther"I just hope he keeps faith with Sharp as he's youngish, non-quota and keen to learn.'"
I hope as well as keeping faith with Sharp Agar also tries to make his life a little easier by changing our defensive pattern that's far too condensed down the middle. Even the most experienced of wingers cannot mark 3 players.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"I hope as well as keeping faith with Sharp Agar also tries to make his life a little easier by changing our defensive pattern that's far too condensed down the middle. Even the most experienced of wingers cannot mark 3 players.'"
Definatley. It's too easy to simply blame the winger.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"Definatley. It's too easy to simply blame the winger.'"
Sadly it's not stopped our previous highly experienced wingers from getting slated by some. Blacklock, Sing and Calderwood all took stick because of their defensive work at FC. None of them were really at fault for our poor defensive pattern.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Sadly it's not stopped our previous highly experienced wingers from getting slated by some. Blacklock, Sing and Calderwood all took stick because of their defensive work at FC. None of them were really at fault for our poor defensive pattern.'"
As I say, it's easy. I also usually find it's easy to blame newcomers at Hull.
However people would still rather us play Lyne, who has not impressed at all for me. Yes he's young, but so are Arundel, Evans, Charnley and Foster.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"As I say, it's easy. I also usually find it's easy to blame newcomers at Hull.
However people would still rather us play Lyne, who has not impressed at all for me. Yes he's young, but so are Arundel, Evans, Charnley and Foster.'"
I love the fact that Castleford are happy to play Arundel at centre too, rather than feeling the need to play a future centre on the wing for their early years.
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| I think it's fair to question Sharps reading of the game - away at wigan, when we had a man extra, he was badly out of position twice, there was simply no need for him to come inside. At Huddesfield we were over ran down that side and i thought he could have done better for Hodgsons try, to be fair to him, Tickle had a mare that game too down that side.
Against Cas, i would rather bow to Chase's skill and vision, he'd clocked that Sharp had been centre field and had the nous to chip on first tacle to his side whilst he was ot of position, brilliant half back play. Sharp didnt cover himself in glory though.
I'm not saying drop Sharp but i would be interested in seeing Jack Briscoe get a run.
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| Quote ="lummy"I think it's fair to question Sharps reading of the game - away at wigan, when we had a man extra, he was badly out of position twice, there was simply no need for him to come inside. At Huddesfield we were over ran down that side and i thought he could have done better for Hodgsons try, to be fair to him, Tickle had a mare that game too down that side.
Against Cas, i would rather bow to Chase's skill and vision, he'd clocked that Sharp had been centre field and had the nous to chip on first tacle to his side whilst he was ot of position, brilliant half back play. Sharp didnt cover himself in glory though.
I'm not saying drop Sharp but i would be interested in seeing Jack Briscoe get a run.'"
Long came out of the line last Friday, watch it again.
Not drop Sharp but you want Jack Briscoe? So what do you want?
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| It would be ridiculous to drop a player for a couple of errors - it would utterly destory his confidence and he has generally been a really good player for us this season imo.
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| Quote ="fc casual"Some people need to grasp the concept that Sharp is been left exposed on numerous occasions through no fault of his own. Our right side defence is poor and has been for years, I'm sure if stats were available then it would show our right side leaks the most points and I think we will continue to do so until we sign an out and out right centre instead of playing utility players there.
Imo sharp hasn't done much wrong, sure he has made some poor options but to contemplete dropping him is laughable, you don't hear the shouts for briscoe and whiting who have made poor decisions over the past few weeks.'"
Whilst the lad isnt totally blameless for a couple of gaffs to drop him would be counter productive on so many levels, think back to when Tom was learning his trade, did he get dropped ?? no you persevere and give the player the confidence to keep going till they solve % of the issues in hand on the training paddock.
Sharp is an outstanding young player with a massive future still very much learning the game AND playing very well apart from being caught ball watching on ocassion...
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| I've been very disappointed with Sharp ever since he got his self tackled into touch against Rovers on the first tackle. He looks very green, weak under the high ball,lacking in confidence and defensively he lacks positional sense. I do think he needs a run in the 20's to regain some form. Players should be picked on form.
However I don't think Reece is ready yet but he is still very young.
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"But he hasnt played that well though as he? Granted his centre has left him high and dry a few times but he also hasnt done himslef any favours with some of his half hearted attempts at catching balls and tackling. I wouldnt go as far as saying hes a scapegoat but hes a weak link in the side at present imo.'"
He has made one or two errors, the winning try at Wigan he was at fault for and he dropped an easy kick against Cas that led to a try. The problem is fans keep thinking he is out of position but he is iften left out on a limb by Whiting and the defenders inside him. He takes the ball up often and well and when he's had scoring chances he has taken them.
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| Quote ="Freddy Lee"Some fans are pointing out that hes playing poorly and it stands out in games more than other players...the majority of fans that i have been sat near in the games that i have been to have commented at some point about sharps performances....hardly being made a scapegoat just an observation..'"
But he is not playing poorly, he has made the odd error as mentioned above. So has every other player tbh.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"But he is not playing poorly, he has made the odd error as mentioned above. So has every other player tbh.'"
they forget all the other things he does so well , proper grafter that will only get better ...
Like Fitz hasnt made mistakes or ogre or Tom..of course they all do however on the wings it can look glaring when down the middle mistakes get covered... we have a quality young wing on both edges now that will both only grow and grow with time
mind you this forum needs a scapegoat each year , sharpy keep your head down!!!
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| Im normally one of his bigger critics but he wasnt too bad against Cas. Knock ons from kicks can happen to anyone and he had no chance on their second.
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