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| Quote ="TrevLovesJanice"Not sure it is interesting at all, as it represents the votes of keyboard warriors who are a minority across the whole group of supporters.
I voted No btw'"
So it only represents the views of keyboard warriors? Yet you've also voted? So your also a keyboard warrior whose opinion should be instantly discounted. Congratulations.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"So it only represents the views of keyboard warriors? Yet you've also voted? So your also a keyboard warrior whose opinion should be instantly discounted. Congratulations.'"
Correct. Thereby showing the silliness of the whole thing !
(its called IRONY)
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| I find it amazing and interesting to hear those who are still supporting Radford. I'm not sure what it says about them as individuals or is merely a reflection of where the club is currently?
I do question the support he receives from AP? Is it Adam who isn't as forthcoming as he portrays in the media to help Radford, or Radfords inexperience to ask for help?
Either way to much water has passed under the bridge now and his position is unsustainable long term.
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| For what its worth I voted to give Radford a few games next season.
The reason for this... It seems obvious that Radford would have to physically assault Pearson to be sacked as it stands. Pearson appears to have a medium term plan to make is self sufficient via an effective youth system. To all looking from the outside that youth system is beginning to bear seed.
We are lead to understand that the first team had "issues" which were left by McRae / Gental (although I think there is some scapegoating there).
If we get another coach now, or even before the start of next season, will be have the well worn excuse of "Well, its not my team, judge me on my signings" which appears to be a staple phase used by some coaches?
Personally I think you only have to look at Powell at Cas to see what a competent coach can do with a collective group of players.
If results are not up to scratch after 6 games next season, I would get rid, having had someone lined up well before that.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"For what its worth I voted to give Radford a few games next season.
The reason for this... It seems obvious that Radford would have to physically assault Pearson to be sacked as it stands. Pearson appears to have a medium term plan to make is self sufficient via an effective youth system. To all looking from the outside that youth system is beginning to bear seed.
We are lead to understand that the first team had "issues" which were left by McRae / Gental (although I think there is some scapegoating there).
If we get another coach now, or even before the start of next season, will be have the well worn excuse of "Well, its not my team, judge me on my signings" which appears to be a staple phase used by some coaches?
Personally I think you only have to look at Powell at Cas to see what a competent coach can do with a collective group of players.
If results are not up to scratch after 6 games next season, I would get rid, having had someone lined up well before that.'"
That seems a pretty well-balanced view, and not unrealistic
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"For what its worth I voted to give Radford a few games next season.
The reason for this... It seems obvious that Radford would have to physically assault Pearson to be sacked as it stands. Pearson appears to have a medium term plan to make is self sufficient via an effective youth system. To all looking from the outside that youth system is beginning to bear seed.
We are lead to understand that the first team had "issues" which were left by McRae / Gental (although I think there is some scapegoating there).
If we get another coach now, or even before the start of next season, will be have the well worn excuse of "Well, its not my team, judge me on my signings" which appears to be a staple phase used by some coaches?
Personally I think you only have to look at Powell at Cas to see what a competent coach can do with a collective group of players.
If results are not up to scratch after 6 games next season, I would get rid, having had someone lined up well before that.'"
Only problem there is he has wasted us 6 games before we sack him and its not that easy to get a quality coach in when the season starts and it will be a new structure the new coach will try and put in while trying to figure out strengths and weaknesses of the team. Much easy for a Coach to get it all sorted out in the off season then having to play catch up after 6 games under immense pressure. Or we could do the sensible thing and sack Radford now and bring in a proper proven coach something Radford is quite clearly not.
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| The last time I looked if you add up those who said Resign and Get sacked it added up to 60% - Not wanted is he.
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| Quote ="Basher"The last time I looked if you add up those who said Resign and Get sacked it added up to 60% - Not wanted is he.'"
And I bet most of the people who vote "No" and "Give him a few games" would rather have someone else.
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| Sharp out, Agar our, Gentle out, Radford out. Who the hell is going to want to come to our club?
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| Quote ="joetwizzy"Sharp out, Agar our, Gentle out, Radford out. Who the hell is going to want to come to our club?'"
That's a VERY good question
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| Quote ="TrevLovesJanice"That's a VERY good question'"
Whoever it is I hope he's successful otherwise it'll be A N Other OUT
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| i didn't want gentle out...all I want is for a team that are competitive in the s.l and c.c. play some entertaining rugby. give us what we pay for, not the dross we have been served up this season.
to me, its clear to see radders hasn't a clue. if I could see hime improving things in any which way, then I'd say give him chance, but things have got worse by the week. only positive is he plays some players in the right position, eg- westerman.
not got time to air all my comments about him and his failings atm, so will just leave the rant there.....for now
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| Quote ="Mr-Benz"Only problem there is he has wasted us 6 games before we sack him and its not that easy to get a quality coach in when the season starts and it will be a new structure the new coach will try and put in while trying to figure out strengths and weaknesses of the team. Much easy for a Coach to get it all sorted out in the off season then having to play catch up after 6 games under immense pressure. Or we could do the sensible thing and sack Radford now and bring in a proper proven coach something Radford is quite clearly not.'"
I was just giving my view.
Realistically, where are these proven coaches? Whether it be now, in the off season or 6 games into next season, you can only go,and get what's available. A lot of SL clubs dismissed Powell due to his time at Leeds (Hull included )
6 games would give a decent bench mark and would not write off that season. Remember Peter Sharp came in after 6 games in 2006 and took us to the GF.
I am not happy with the current situation, but we need to be careful of too many knee jerk reactions.
One thing is for certain, whoever takes the field of play wearing a Hull shirt should get unanimous backing fo 80 minutes.
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| I voted quit. I can understand the sentiments of giving him 6 games next season , But we never had the best of pre-seasons and it's not got much better as the season's gone on . 24 games in and we're still as bad as at the start of the season . Bringing in someone now while we still have a bit of room for players to bring in and release & change some of the systems that are clearly not working under Radford .
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| Saying "it's obvious he hasn't got a clue" is pretty hard to substantiate
I am sure he knows a lot more about rl than most of us. Where i think he is failing is in motivational techniques.
The game plan and team he picks is more or less okay I reckon. He has brought the best out of westy for one, and has ditched some players that are obviously no good (and being well paid for being average).
I would just like the players to share his passion, and I wonder if he can get it across
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| Quote ="TrevLovesJanice"Saying "it's obvious he hasn't got a clue" is pretty hard to substantiate
I am sure he knows a lot more about rl than most of us. Where i think he is failing is in motivational techniques.
The game plan and team he picks is more or less okay I reckon. He has brought the best out of westy for one, and has ditched some players that are obviously no good (and being well paid for being average).
I would just like the players to share his passion, and I wonder if he can get it across'"
Are you off your rocker?
He's made some extremely basic errors, both from a playing point of view, team selction POV and man magement POV. He keeps on making the same errors and the team keeps on playing crap because they aren't motivated nor bothered to play for this out of depth 'coach'
That IMO substantiates that he hasn't got a clue..and frankly his actions/inactions speak volumes about his utter lack of coaching knowledge/ability..
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| peter smurthwaite votes no
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| I voted 'Yes', but I'm now at the point where I don't really care, thats apathy for ya.
He'll be here as Pearson wants him here. Just hope the depths we have to sink to for Lee to get the bullet are not irreparable.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Are you off your rocker?
He's made some extremely basic errors, both from a playing point of view, team selction POV and man magement POV.'"
err, that's 3 things but go on then - what mistakes has he made "from a playing point of view" or "man management POV" ?
We can all have our views on team selection tbh, but I am interested in your other two claims !!
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| Quote ="TrevLovesJanice"err, that's 3 things but go on then - what mistakes has he made "from a playing point of view" or "man management POV" ?
We can all have our views on team selection tbh, but I am interested in your other two claims !!'"
"Playing point of view" - poor use of interchanges e.g. not bringing on Rankin and Sa against Bradford until late in the game. In the away game at Salford not bringing on Feka until the second half and then, although he was the best prop, dropping him for the next match.
"man management" - bawling out players who he thought had a poor game or made a mistake in front of the group (this was told to me by a current first team player).
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| Those are "team selection" aren't they ? he covers those as his third point.
I wasn't questioning that - I was asking about "playing point of view" because I have no idea what this claim is on about !
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| Quote ="TrevLovesJanice"Those are "team selection" aren't they ? he covers those as his third point.
I wasn't questioning that - I was asking about "playing point of view" because I have no idea what this claim is on about !'"
The two examples I gave were manifestly not "team selection". Team selection means who is in the 17 man squad and in what positions. The examples I gave are clearly different.
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| Quote ="Diogenes""man management" - bawling out players who he thought had a poor game or made a mistake in front of the group (this was told to me by a current first team player).'"
A bit like Nathan Brown in the Sporting Life, perhaps..... Quote Brown bemoaned defensive failings during Widnes' rally but was content with the overall performance.
"Jordan Turner and Mark Percival had good games, but both were responsible for poor reads for two of those tries," he said.'"
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| Quote ="ccs"A bit like Nathan Brown in the Sporting Life, perhaps.....'"
Indeed. In fact publicly criticising individual players in the media is probably even worse than bawling them out in front of their team mates. A good man-manager can talk to the press about individual errors without "naming names".
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| A professional rugby league environment is different to the average workplace. There seems to be a lot of people on here who know the first team environment at Hull inside out despite not being in any position to do so. To be honest I get a bit sick of one pontification after the next deriding Radford's man management capabilities from people who can only be clueless on the subject in reality.
We can all see deficiencies in selection, tactics, structure and the basic skill levels of certain players. All of that is fair game for criticism so why people feel the need to take a punt on the way Radford manages individuals when they have no first hand experience of it whatsoever is beyond me. As has been demonstrated on this thread other coaches in the league do the same things that Radford has done in the media. Wane at Wigan publicly berates his team regularly. If players don't like it then play better - some players like Ellis, Westerman and alike rarely if ever suffer from criticism - maybe that's because they don't deserve it where others do.
There have been a number of extensions and signings recently. If the place was such a nightmare to work at players would be looking to get out not the other way around.
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