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| Quote ="Funk-Doc"Could it be that the coach is doing the best he can but it is infact the players that just are not good enough??i think you have more then most average plodding workhorse type players and not enough creative players and you have been found out, Kear was good at getting them to play as a team but with Sharp and now Agar they don't seem as able to, your even doing a great job of making Berrigan look average and that can't be easy, the likes of Swain and Kearny pulled the team together but you don't have that now and as much as you dream about these big name signings coming in the reality is the board are gonna keep looking for the cheap option, why else would they give agar the contract they did without him proving himself further??'"
I do think we have creative players, but they are played out of position. Whiting is a LF, yet we play a prop there. that is one of the major problems. With a good coach i think we would be a good side |
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| Quote ="The Brother"TBH i thought 1st half Thorman apart the effort was there but his inability to tackle cost us 3 trys which drained the confidence of other players around him'" He is putting us under pressure every time he gets the ball and his kicks go right to there man every time he is rubbish and a wast of money and a waste of space |
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| Quote ="Ull Lad"I just dont get it. he sits there spouting this rubbish about simple stuff souch as one on ones, and the players just arnt doing it and its the same week in week out.
SO WHY ISNT HE DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT!!!!
he is supposed to be the head coach he is supposed to tell the players what he wants them to do. He's not supposed to just sit there and accept that as an excuse every week.'" Simple he is not super league standard pure and simple and Thorman is nl1 standard at best Mark Hewitt would do a better job he still has a better kicking game than Thorman |
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| Quote ="Ull Lad"I just dont get it. he sits there spouting this rubbish about simple stuff souch as one on ones, and the players just arnt doing it and its the same week in week out.
SO WHY ISNT HE DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT!!!!
he is supposed to be the head coach he is supposed to tell the players what he wants them to do. He's not supposed to just sit there and accept that as an excuse every week.'" Simple he is not super league standard pure and simple and Thorman is nl1 standard at best Mark Hewitt would do a better job he still has a better kicking game than Thorman |
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| Quote ="joburg"Sharp knew how poor Thorman was whilst at Huddersfield, why then did he recommend him to Agar?
Thorman would struggle to get into some Championship sides.'" Did he recommend him though he is the type of player we get these days dont you think |
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| Quote ="ChrisH"He missed Donald as well on the Leeds line after a good attack and kick from us and that lead to another try. It's not just the miss either , it's the fact that he just has no intention of tackling , it's just a token hand on the shoulder before being brushed off.'" Yep and you look at Horn he will try to tackle any one |
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| Quote ="RAB C"Yep and you look at Horn he will try to tackle any one'"
He misses a lot of them though |
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"He misses a lot of them though'"
Started to hasnt he. |
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Started to hasnt he.'"
No, he's always missed plenty but he's immune from criticism as he's a Hull lad |
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"No, he's always missed plenty but he's immune from criticism as he's a Hull lad'"
Horne immune from criticism? 
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Hmmm, everyones bored of Thorman and now to Horney?!
Not for me ta, been stand out this season. Probably best of a bad bunch though....
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"No, he's always missed plenty but he's immune from criticism as he's a Hull lad'"
Ive always thought he had a brilliant defence and didnt ever notice him missing too many, but since he has lost a few Kilos he doesnt look strong enough defensively anymore. |
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"No, he's always missed plenty but he's immune from criticism as he's a Hull lad'"
Not sure on that, people always used to say that his defence was very good and also complain (suprise huh) that he did to much defensive work for a 6/7. |
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"No, he's always missed plenty but he's immune from criticism as he's a Hull lad'"
A ‘miss tackle’ generally implies he has at least made an effort, I don’t think anyone can question Richard’s effort/commitment. However, I think we need a new adjective to describe Thorman’s ‘attempts’ to stop the opposition. |
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| Quote ="Neil HFC"Not sure on that, people always used to say that his defence was very good and also complain (suprise huh) that he did to much defensive work for a 6/7.'"
Quote ="Big Dave T"Ive always thought he had a brilliant defence and didnt ever notice him missing too many, but since he has lost a few Kilos he doesnt look strong enough defensively anymore.'"
Stats tell a different story
[url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?season=2009&stat=missed_tackles&hs1=2009&hp1=1795&hs2=2009&hp2=2009[/url
[url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?season=2007&stat=missed_tackles&hs1=2009&hp1=1795&hs2=2009&hp2=1532007[/url
[url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?season=2006&stat=missed_tackles&hs1=2009&hp1=1795&hs2=2009&hp2=1532006[/url
[url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?season=2005&stat=missed_tackles&hs1=2009&hp1=1795&hs2=2009&hp2=1532005[/url
[url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?season=2004&stat=missed_tackles&hs1=2009&hp1=1795&hs2=2009&hp2=1532004[/url
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Stats tell a different story
[url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?season=2009&stat=missed_tackles&hs1=2009&hp1=1795&hs2=2009&hp2=2009[/url
[url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?season=2007&stat=missed_tackles&hs1=2009&hp1=1795&hs2=2009&hp2=1532007[/url
[url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?season=2006&stat=missed_tackles&hs1=2009&hp1=1795&hs2=2009&hp2=1532006[/url
[url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?season=2005&stat=missed_tackles&hs1=2009&hp1=1795&hs2=2009&hp2=1532005[/url
[url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?season=2004&stat=missed_tackles&hs1=2009&hp1=1795&hs2=2009&hp2=1532004[/url
He also makes plenty so his % probably isn't that bad'"
He's been pretty consistent at 10% missed up until this season, where he's running at around twice that. Or to put it another way, he was missing around 50 tackles in a whole season but has racked up 39 misses so far this season. |
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| Quote ="PAUL M"He cost us the game, it's that simple. The team worked hard and he destroyed time and time again.'"
Do you reckon that was what Raynor was saying in his shell like behind the posts? |
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Crushed, just isnt good enough, Pride of all Hull? feel daft wearing that top when they play like that.
Lets just hope they twist things around and end the season like we started the season.
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| Quote ="barton baird"Do you reckon that was what Raynor was saying in his shell like behind the posts?'"
Saw that too, thought he was going to tw4t him one! |
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| Quote ="Dr Hfuhruhurr"However, I think we need a new adjective to describe Thorman’s ‘attempts’ to stop the opposition.'"
Defensive side-step? |
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Defensive side-step?'"
Having seen his attempts at offensive side-steps, I don’t think so. |
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| Quote ="Dr Hfuhruhurr"A ‘miss tackle’ generally implies he has at least made an effort, I don’t think anyone can question Richard’s effort/commitment. However, I think we need a new adjective to describe Thorman’s ‘attempts’ to stop the opposition.'"
A 'feableyourpantssidesteptheattacker' attempt? |
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"He misses a lot of them though'"
Have we a player this season that hasn't missed plenty of tackles? Rich Horne avoids criticism mainly because he's been one of our top 3 players for the last 10 years. If we slag players like Rich off, god help the rest of them! |
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| Quote ="Kosh"He's been pretty consistent at 10% missed up until this season, where he's running at around twice that. Or to put it another way, he was missing around 50 tackles in a whole season but has racked up 39 misses so far this season.'"
Which backs up the theory that he is defensively weaker this season and has been pretty good in the past, probably down to his reduced weight/size.
10% missed is a pretty good average i think.
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| Quote ="Raggytash"Have we a player this season that hasn't missed plenty of tackles? Rich Horne avoids criticism mainly because he's been one of our top 3 players for the last 10 years. If we slag players like Rich off, god help the rest of them!'"
I'm not criticising Horne's overall game, just showing that defensively he has problems. The try which calderwood was screaming for obstruction for came about when senior swatted horne away like he was a fly |
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