Suppose he played well alongside Holdsworth last year.

more strength to start with then bring in abit more mobility off the bench, although think of that would put feka in for carvs.

not a world beater, but seems to offer more then miller in attack. how about this instead

Shaul

Crookes
Crooks

Whiting
Talanoa

Rankin
Horne

Bowden
Azza
Paea
Ellis
Hadley
Watts

subs'
Miller, Feka, Tomo and Green

that's my over night thoughts.....

Two stand offs in the halfback position, Miller is the only SH we have.

If Carvell is fit he has to play.

It is quite hard to pick a team at the moment for various reasons.

Carvs if fit should be given another week off to recover rather then coming back for one and out again.

Horne and Rankin in the halves for me, with miller off the bench for azza later on

Was Carvell injured last week, I thought he was dropped/rested?

Unless I've missed something, you might be better picking the 17 for Wigan from the squad named. Rankin isn't in it

I have just re-read this again and already having nightmares about Miller playing hooker, his defence is no where near up to the task

I think this is his preferred team when everyone is fit.

I've noticed in a few games that Talanoa often ends up limping so I'm just wondering if he's carrying a slight knock?

For me it's not a case of thinking he's a world beater but more a case of questioning was he really bad enough to be dropped compared to other members of the team when it was a poor performance all round?

No Lineham?
No Westy?

I think the poor love has got confused

Horne, Carvell start on Friday which is no surprise.

Westerman on course to play according to Smailes.

Just read Whiting's latest column on the HDM website. He says the players will be up for this one. No offence to Stilts but that's the problem for me. I have no doubt they'll be up for this one against the champs but they need to be just as up for games like last week.

I was saying the team I'd have chosen, despite radders dropping Rankin, Hadley. No confusion here mate.

I'm also not say play Miller at hooker, the half backs to swap and change to keep Wigan guessing who will be play maker etc.

Don't understand all this tackle about Miller and his tackling, he fronted up well against Wakey, missed one tackle I believe even whilst Wakeys big lads were picking him out. Not the first game I've seen him have a good defensive game either

I don't think it's down to dropping a player, but bringing back Horne, who is still our best HB.
This means finding a place for Miller/Rankin, and putting one of them on the bench doesn't make sense to me.

We badly need some points, having dropped more than plenty recently, so at the moment we need to play our best backs whenever possible.

The forwards can be swapped about without (in theory) too much impact on overall team performance.
After all, there are 10 (forward) interchanges each game anyway.

If that's the reason then fair enough. I agree with that. A half on the bench makes no sense to me either.

Not under any circumstances should you play a half back on the bench, it's ridiculous

Looking at the amount of Wigan players missing, surely even this lot will get a result.

you would think so but still a good side and better than Wakeys who beat us last week.

Shaul
Crookes
Crooks
Yeaman
Talanoa
Horne
Miller
Paea
Houghton
Carvell
Ellis
Thompson
Westerman
Subs
Feka
Heremaia
Watts
Whiting
Bowden and Colbon to miss out

Shaul
Crookes
Crooks
Yeaman
Talanoa
Horne
Miller
Paea
Houghton
Carvell
Ellis
Whiting
Westerman

Thompson
Heremaia
Bowden
Watts

Unless feka is injured then it's another baffling decision from Radford. Thought he was our best prop against wakey.

Feka's in

Late change Feka replaces Watts on bench