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Quote ="Mild Rover"Anger seems to have given him extra eloquence - that is a memorable, well-crafted line.'"
He's good. That reminds me (digression I know) - I thought of you when I read this article from Dan's opposite number and welcome your critique. Which do you like the best, the creepy headline, the comma confetti, or the "gagging for it" turn of phrase at the end?
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... n=sharebar
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He's good. That reminds me (digression I know) - I thought of you when I read this article from Dan's opposite number and welcome your critique. Which do you like the best, the creepy headline, the comma confetti, or the "gagging for it" turn of phrase at the end?
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... n=sharebar
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Quote ="Mrs Barista"He's good. That reminds me (digression I know) - I thought of you when I read this article from Dan's opposite number and welcome your critique. Which do you like the best, the creepy headline, the comma confetti, or the "gagging for it" turn of phrase at the end?
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... n=sharebar'"
There is a very big difference between the events behind the statements. FC’s woes are due to a lack of attitude, ability and poor coaching. Rovers’ due to bad luck. There is a world of difference.
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https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... n=sharebar'"
There is a very big difference between the events behind the statements. FC’s woes are due to a lack of attitude, ability and poor coaching. Rovers’ due to bad luck. There is a world of difference.
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| Quote ="Keiththered"There is a very big difference between the events behind the statements. FC’s woes are due to a lack of attitude, ability and poor coaching. Rovers’ due to bad luck. There is a world of difference.'" When we need your expert opinion on Hull Fc we'll ask. Soon as we pick up which could be next year you will soon disappear down your hole. By the way well done on yesterday you have a good team there
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| Embarrassing afternoon to say the least. Completely unacceptable in fact, arguably the worst performance in derby history, at least by ourselves.
They look to me like they have down tools and are simply going through the motions until their inevitable departure at the end of the year. I will be surprised if we win 4 more games this year, although where those 4 wins would come I have no idea. Right now, we look incapable of beating anyone. Even Wakefield, with all their problems, I would only make a 50/50 game. For the rest of SL we must look like easy pickings, 2pts to be gathered in with ease.
As for our nearest and dearest, I have a suspicion they will reach one of the two major finals later this year. They look solid and more than capable of upsetting anyone. Whether they actually win the major final is another matter, dependent on opponent, form, weather, ability to handle the big occasion, but I do have a feeling they will reach either Wembley or OT.
We, quite obviously, won't be!
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| Quote ="BP1"Embarrassing afternoon to say the least. Completely unacceptable in fact, arguably the worst performance in derby history, at least by ourselves.
They look to me like they have down tools and are simply going through the motions until their inevitable departure at the end of the year. I will be surprised if we win 4 more games this year, although where those 4 wins would come I have no idea. Right now, we look incapable of beating anyone. Even Wakefield, with all their problems, I would only make a 50/50 game. For the rest of SL we must look like easy pickings, 2pts to be gathered in with ease.
As for our nearest and dearest, I have a suspicion they will reach one of the two major finals later this year. They look solid and more than capable of upsetting anyone. Whether they actually win the major final is another matter, dependent on opponent, form, weather, ability to handle the big occasion, but I do have a feeling they will reach either Wembley or OT.
We, quite obviously, won't be!'"
I agree. Saints definitely off the boil makes it a far more level playing field this year. Bit reminiscent of us in 2016 - good squad, almost no injuries - why not?
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| Well they say every dog has his day. And let's face they are dogs (and rabid ones at that, looking at the goings on in the West Stand).
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| Quote ="Keiththered"Whatever. We are just enjoying the moment and looking forward to a brighter future. How or if that developed or whether we win anything only time will tell. Your misery makes our joy even sweeter
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Are you a 15 year old girl, whatever
We have had much darker times than this, enjoy this Keith, because this is probably as good as it gets, you haven't the resources or the youth set up to compete with the top teams consistently.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I agree. Saints definitely off the boil makes it a far more level playing field this year. Bit reminiscent of us in 2016 - good squad, almost no injuries - why not?'"
Oddly, we look reminiscent of them in 2016. No fight, no backbone, no commitment, liable to collapse under the slightest pressure.
Rovers were relegated in 2016 after sliding, imperceptibly, backwards over a 3/4 year period without heeding the warning signs, ultimately paying the price.
We are where we are right now due to errors made over the past 3/4 years (coaching, recruitment) and we are still going backwards. Wakefield are currently our safety net, but if they were to pull a win out of somewhere the alarm bells really will start to ring.
I don't believe it will come to that, but something clearly stinks around the club. No one is saying that this squad should challenging for the title, but it certainly should not be serving up the level of dross we have witnessed this past month.
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| Quote ="Keiththered"Whatever. We are just enjoying the moment and looking forward to a brighter future. How or if that developed or whether we win anything only time will tell. Your misery makes our joy even sweeter
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you're not enjoying the moment, you're on here gloating you sad . FC so severely live rent free in your head, you can't even enjoy KR winning with KR.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Are you a 15 year old girl, whatever
We have had much darker times than this, enjoy this Keith, because this is probably as good as it gets, you haven't the resources or the youth set up to compete with the top teams consistently.'"
Don’t be childish.
You or I have no idea if this is as good as it gets. Only time will tell. I do however feel that Willie Peters has more chance of taking us to the next level this year than Tony Smith has of halting FC’s decline. If resources are the criteria then your lack of money, technical insolvency, lack of reserve/academy players making a breakthrough, seem to put you at a disadvantage. We have demonstrated our improved strength in depth this year, many of our squad players outside the first 17 leave even your first 17 in the shade. I accept that we have to demonstrate a consistent ability to compete with the top teams but only in the Cats away did we come up a bit short of a possible win. Three head injuries did not help. FC on the other hand can hardly compete with the bottom teams.
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| Quote ="BP1"Oddly, we look reminiscent of them in 2016. No fight, no backbone, no commitment, liable to collapse under the slightest pressure.
Rovers were relegated in 2016 after sliding, imperceptibly, backwards over a 3/4 year period without heeding the warning signs, ultimately paying the price.
We are where we are right now due to errors made over the past 3/4 years (coaching, recruitment) and we are still going backwards. Wakefield are currently our safety net, but if they were to pull a win out of somewhere the alarm bells really will start to ring.
I don't believe it will come to that, Quote but something clearly stinks around the club'" . No one is saying that this squad should challenging for the title, but it certainly should not be serving up the level of dross we have witnessed this past month.'"
It'll be the mucky kebabs.
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| Quote ="the cal train"you're not enjoying the moment, you're on here gloating you sad nice person. FC so severely live rent free in your head, you can't even enjoy KR winning with KR.
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Recognising your pain helps even more. Your lack of English does not help me understand exactly what you are trying to say.
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Think this is going to be the euphemism for all out-of-favour need-to-get-rid-of players, as in how many 'mucky kebabs' do we need to throw in the bin before season's end!!'"
We should use it as our new nickname.
Get the marketing department involved and use it to sell merchandise. Even Rovers fans will buy it.
Jesus what a fecking state we are in when we are taking the p#ss out of ourselves
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| A touching moment yesterday at the Hull derby yesterday when Rosalyn Sullivan wife of the late Clive Sullivan who played for both Humberside clubs delivered the match ball to official Jack Smith.
The home fans showed their respect by remaining silent for 80 minutes.
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| It really annoys me that we get idiots that think it's funny throwing bottles of beer still, I'm hoping that cctv will sort them out and see them banned from all grounds, but don't think of us all like that, as we know 99% of fans are there for the love of there team, 5000 Rovers there and a handful of idiots.
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| Quote ="BP1"Oddly, we look reminiscent of them in 2016. No fight, no backbone, no commitment, liable to collapse under the slightest pressure.
Rovers were relegated in 2016 after sliding, imperceptibly, backwards over a 3/4 year period without heeding the warning signs, ultimately paying the price.
We are where we are right now due to errors made over the past 3/4 years (coaching, recruitment) and we are still going backwards. Wakefield are currently our safety net, but if they were to pull a win out of somewhere the alarm bells really will start to ring.
I don't believe it will come to that, but something clearly stinks around the club. No one is saying that this squad should challenging for the title, but it certainly should not be serving up the level of dross we have witnessed this past month.'"
"I don't believe it will come to that"
That's the attitude that will see us in potential trouble
Apart from saints, wigan, catalan and wire
The gap between the rest is minimal
We can't defend and can't score much last few games either
If Wakefield beat us in a few weeks and we haven't improved by then it will be squeaky bum time
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| Quote ="Thetalentboy""I don't believe it will come to that"
That's the attitude that will see us in potential trouble
Apart from saints, wigan, catalan and wire
The gap between the rest is minimal
We can't defend and can't score much last few games either
If Wakefield beat us in a few weeks and we haven't improved by then it will be squeaky bum time'"
The conspiracy theorist in me wonders if anyone will actually go down though, I think its likely Fev will be told their ground isnt good enough and it doesnt sound like IMG are too keen on international teams so Tolouse may find some random reasons for a no.
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| Quote ="Keiththered"Don’t be childish.
You or I have no idea if this is as good as it gets. Only time will tell. I do however feel that Willie Peters has more chance of taking us to the next level this year than Tony Smith has of halting FC’s decline. If resources are the criteria then your lack of money, technical insolvency, lack of reserve/academy players making a breakthrough, seem to put you at a disadvantage. We have demonstrated our improved strength in depth this year, many of our squad players outside the first 17 leave even your first 17 in the shade. I accept that we have to demonstrate a consistent ability to compete with the top teams but only in the Cats away did we come up a bit short of a possible win. Three head injuries did not help. FC on the other hand can hardly compete with the bottom teams.'"
We miles ahead I reserves, academy and Scholarship, that's the one positive at the club at the moment.
In the history of SL, only Bradford, Leeds, Saints and Wigan have consistently won things, yhats because there success and squad was built in academy players.
You and other clubs are still miles off that, evidenced by not one player in your 17 coming through your own academy (Lewis was COHA).
You will beat top sides, now and again, but you have to win something or no one remembers, you had some decent years under Morgan including beating us in the play offs, but I've no idea what year that was or who knocked you out.
Best you can hope for is a cup final win, but until you get your youth right, you won't complete year in year out with the likes of Saints and Wigan.
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| Quote ="bishops finger"It really annoys me that we get idiots that think it's funny throwing bottles of beer still, I'm hoping that cctv will sort them out and see them banned from all grounds, but don't think of us all like that, as we know 99% of fans are there for the love of there team,Quote 5000 Rovers there and a handful of idiots.'" '"
We have them as well BF. I go to derby home games because I'm a passholder but stopped going to CP because of the behaviour of both sets of fans. Some are that p#ssed or drugged up that they can hardly stand let alone watch the game.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Are you a 15 year old girl, whatever
We have had much darker times than this, enjoy this Keith, because this is probably as good as it gets, you haven't the resources or the youth set up to compete with the top teams consistently.'"
We don’t have the resources?
We’re now the richest club in the SL.
2016 has been mentioned and you’re all correct to do so.
If any of you hull fans don’t think you’re in a relegation battle then you’re burying your heads in the sand.
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| Quote ="Keiththered"Don’t be childish.
You or I have no idea if this is as good as it gets. Only time will tell. I do however feel that Willie Peters has more chance of taking us to the next level this year than Tony Smith has of halting FC’s decline. If resources are the criteria then your lack of money, technical insolvency, lack of reserve/academy players making a breakthrough, seem to put you at a disadvantage. We have demonstrated our improved strength in depth this year, many of our squad players outside the first 17 leave even your first 17 in the shade. I accept that we have to demonstrate a consistent ability to compete with the top teams but only in the Cats away did we come up a bit short of a possible win. Three head injuries did not help. FC on the other hand can hardly compete with the bottom teams.'"
Keith.
You've been a member of RL fans for 10 years during this period we have won silverware and Rovers have suffered the ignominy of relegation yet you've only started posting on this forum for the last couple of years.
Any reason why?
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| Quote ="Chester Wednesday"We don’t have the resources?
We’re now the richest club in the SL.
2016 has been mentioned and you’re all correct to do so.
If any of you hull fans don’t think you’re in a relegation battle then you’re burying your heads in the sand.'"
Any proof of you being the richest club?
Resources I'm talking about is more than. money, reputation, training facilities and successful youth set up.
Wogan and Saints are succesful, so the players demand more money or move to the NRL, they survive as they bring in the next player, Welsby and Dodd for Coote and Fages for example. Rovers aren't in that position yet.
We are definitely in a relegation battle, most Hull fans recognise this, not sure what point you are trying to make.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Any proof of you being the richest club?
Resources I'm talking about is more than. money, reputation, training facilities and successful youth set up.
Wogan and Saints are succesful, so the players demand more money or move to the NRL, they survive as they bring in the next player, Welsby and Dodd for Coote and Fages for example. Rovers aren't in that position yet.
We are definitely in a relegation battle, most Hull fans recognise this, not sure what point you are trying to make.'"
It will come with investment
We now have more than enough money
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| Quote ="Chester Wednesday"It will come with investment
We now have more than enough money'"
So no proof, let's see, heard this all before from Rovers fans.
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