Thats why Last should never have been retained.Part of the failure and culture.
Would rather have seen Purtill given the interim job
Always been against club Hull since it was deemed to be the best thing since sliced bread several seasons ago
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Maybe but put yourself in the shoes of Kelly to be told by Radford his shirt number as the clubs number one 6 is to be given to the sulking sultan,Good player but not a six as we all know.
Then played in the reserves.
He is a pro athlete and to see that happen must have hurt badly knowing he is a far better and effective 6 than Connor .

Pure conjecture. Kelly's never left a club on good terms for disciplinary reasons, has suffered with concussion and injury, and AP said he was looking for a move home a while ago. Just as likely it's been a mutually planned move a year ago and Connor got the 6 shirt in recognition of his likely longer future at the club. This is conjecture also, obviously, but not unreasonable.

Looks Like Andy Last until the end of the season. https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... ob-4150621

Looks Like Andy Last until the end of the season. https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... ob-4150621

Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Looks Like Andy Last until the end of the season. https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... ob-4150621'" Given the situation there isn't a lot of option, I can see Last getting a "rolling agreement" like Radford had.

Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Looks Like Andy Last until the end of the season. https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... ob-4150621'" Given the situation there isn't a lot of option, I can see Last getting a "rolling agreement" like Radford had.

Couldn’t see any other option. Think we’d have gone overseas Pre covid.
We’ll be in recovery mode for a while yet, so think Last will be there for a while longer.

Just have a feeling (not heard anything) that some more players could leave. Wouldn’t be surprised to see some of the overseas players go back to the NRL.

This is my worry... We have a couple of players who would easily get NRL deals, so if Pearson wants to make savings, these would be quick fixes from a cashflow perspective.

Long live Club Hull.

Ratu and Kelly are two i think we can afford to lose without it making much of a difference to the team.

I think the squad we have now will also be next years squad too and id be surprised to see anyone come in. But thats maybe what the club needs at the minute.

The team will still be capable of challenging - the main factor will be the coach and what Last can do

Well the new proposed structure, starting games in August and possibly playing till Jan seems an absolute joke to me. Pearson and Hudgell wanting fans at games from October - what idiots think this rubbish up???

A lot of fans wont want to attend until a vaccine is found and why the f**k are we waiting till august? TBH Super League and the RFL are both clueless - after all this time theres still no format decided, no decision on relegation/promotion etc - just what are these numpties doing???

Hoping for an additional Government loan.
I agree its crazy to look at not starting until August if they are planning to play behind closed doors.
Must have board members full of teachers.
Personally dont have a problem with starting end of June with games open to fans.
Wear a mask,or whatever you think will protect you if it gives you the confidence to get back into sports stadiums but lets get the fans back.

Interesting to see how this works? By 1st October most clubs would still have seventeen/eighteen SL games to fit in plus the Cup.

What happens with Catalans and Toronto? Unless they base themselves in the UK they'll both be flying to and from this country evey week. How can clubs play in the UK on a Wednesday, fly to Toronto for a Saturday game then fly home and play again the following Wednesday. Ludicrous.

These are the three proposals. One - no loop fixtures, two - two loops fixtures, three - full season.

Has to be number one

Don’t most Super League contracts end 30/11/2020?

How will that work for then if the current season goes beyond that date?

Got to be option 1, nobody wants to be sat at a Grand Final in freezing January to then start a new season just a few weeks later.

The loop games are a joke anyway, even without Corona they should be ditched.

looks like the test series axed as well then

The test series doesn't make any money without crowds, the main aim is to keep Sky and season pass holders happy (as it should be)

It's 1st November, I mentioned it in another thread that lot's of dates need changing, signing deadline being another.
As it stands, Ratu and Kelly may well have played their last games.
If Ratu's new contract starts on the 1st November, which is more than likely, then his situation is now way too complicated.

Can’t see Ratus new team being prepared to wait until January.

We need Kelly to keep playing. If not we’ll drastically need some new attacking structures from somewhere.
Giving it to Kelly and expecting him to conjure something up will soon be a thing of the past.

I'm not seeing how having people back in grounds in a normal fashion is a problem so long as those that are vulnerable stay away, currently those that are vulnerable are isolated from their own families and/or families/carers/Key workers are wearing PPE or staying x distance away plus washing hands when having to visit vulnerable persons, so passing on any theoretically present virus on is tiny, less than influenza in a normal societal situation at any time of year.

That's before you even get to the fact that you're incorrectly presuming every single one of those thousand fans (or thousands of home fans) all have whatever people think the virus is, which we know cannot be true and that, the limited testing proves this to be so, and even when within a few centimetres this does not automatically mean transmission of any virus. Which if you are practising what the government are telling you to do re hand washing, wearing PPE and/or distancing from the vulnerable then the perceived threat to wider society is simply not there, that is what the interventions are for. And the threat to those interacting within the ground is also tiny, we know this is so if only non vulnerable persons are attending.

There's no logic behind stopping mass gatherings for sport if vulnerable persons are not in attendance based on the protective systems to the vulnerable on the basis of worst case of passing on any potential virus between those in attendance or any other mass gatherings.

Talk of compulsory mask wearing -only the proper N95 respiratory masks are of any real use and are still nowhere near perfect, testing - the test is so flawed it's laughable, or even a flu vaccination for players - again totally bonkers as the strain is different hence why flu vaccine, as per NRL, before you can enter a ground has no logical or scientific evidence behind it to prevent transmission to the vulnerable who won't be in attendance.

if things carry on for a couple more months without fans going to the grounds in as normal a way as possible the sport as we know it will be even more on its knees as will many tens of thousands of other businesses. This all has wider negative effects to communities, to the economy and further still to health and social care which can and does kill even more within society.
People who claim doing x will kill more people by reinfecting/second wave (so called second wave comes from testing even more which gives you more positive tests) don't see the bigger picture and ignore actual science/logic and ignore that when we had far worse in past history regards actual deaths FROM respiratory diseases not a single thing was done to prevent those tens of thousands of deaths. I'll repeat again, 71,000 respiratory deaths in England and Wales in 2019, which was actually a 'good' flu year, every single one of those deaths are underlying cause of death, the number given by government re C.19 deaths are not underlying cause of death.

So if life was so important, if keeping people out of hospital was so important why did general populous and government do absolutely nothing in past years when the actual harm in terms of respiratory deaths was significantly higher than now?

We know viruses cannot be stopped from spreading, it is impossible, and talk of all the solutions to eradicate viruses is just silly at best, so at what point do you suggest we can go back to mass gatherings/back to normal, at what point would you be satisfied that it's okay?
Given what we know that at least 26,000 people die in England alone in a bad flu year (massively less testing compared to current for C.19 means this is a hugely under the actuality) and that all of those deaths were the underlying cause of death (unlike the number given by government which isn't as it's death WITH a number of viruses incl influenza and pneumonia), how does that sit that we ignored all those deaths in previous years by going to the rugby, or any other sport/event?
Why were you not so concerned then when everyone knew how deadly flu and pneumonia was to the vulnerable, what's the logic behind your thinking as to why the date given is wrong?

I'd sit and watch my team in January - packed stands means it's not that cold and it's likely to be less windy/rainy than October in any case, I'd stand for several hours and watch my team in a cold January and have it during the day not night time so it makes it easier to attend/less cold and for fans to get back via train. If it was a final I'd travel a fair old distance to watch them as well no matter the weather, the question should be why wouldn't you attend?



Agree on the lop games, they bring nothing and the weeks could be used in such a massively better way, avoiding the ludicrous Easter programme for one which threatens player welfare and/or bringing the season generally to a close earlier or bring in a couple of mid season internationals I'd love to see more international sides come over and take on Knights teams at same time as the full GB/England side as a double header, maybe even a 7s/9s tournament with the upcoming players plus a limited number of senior players taking part.

Not sure what the biggest threat is right now, catching ‎Coronavirus, or being bored to death by 48756c6c20 524c4643.

I think he's had a [ibump[/i to the head.

..... don't you mean a [iknock [/ito the head ?