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| Quote ="fun time frankie"chase is going to warrington apparrently they have room on there 20 million a year salary cap
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Has their cap been reduced?
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| Strange title thread,seeing as he hasn't even got here yet!!!!!!
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Seymour and Horne as half backs will be the best pairing weve had for years. Dont understand the negativety tbh as Horne had his best game for ages and he was organising which is not his role. Stick an organiser next to him and Horne will become more consistent as he should be able to play his natural game. The kicking game will be based around Seymour and Heremaia which again will be a big improvement. I feel quite positive about next season with these two new lads on board and that doesnt include Ellis who whould go well when he gets his chance and with a good super league off season.'"
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| You've also got to factor in that this isn't necessarily the best we'll see of Horney. After all, not many have moved forward under Agar despite what Murdock says. I'd be more than happy to see how he goes under the new coach.
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| What you all seem to forget is that we also have the Division ones player of the season in half backs next season this is a the sigining i want to see take us foreward less negativity we will have options next season with these two horne and the acadamy lads.
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| Quote ="HRC99"You've also got to factor in that this isn't necessarily the best we'll see of Horney. After all, not many have moved forward under Agar despite what Murdock says. I'd be more than happy to see how he goes under the new coach.'"
I'd suggest a fair few have;
Whiting, Briscoe, Houghton, Manu, Yeaman, Westerman, Moa have all moved forward under Agar.
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| He will be fine playing in your team that includes Lyon, chase and Ellis
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| Quote ="Old_Faithful_IAKW"I'd suggest a fair few have;
Whiting, Briscoe, Houghton, Manu, Yeaman, Westerman, Moa have all moved forward under Agar.'"
Take your point, although I'm not entirely sure Westerman belongs on that list, and the unanswerable question remains how much of that is down to age, game time and experience and how much to Agar? But I am biased!
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| Quote ="Old_Faithful_IAKW"I'd suggest a fair few have;
Whiting, Briscoe, Houghton, Manu, Yeaman, Westerman, Moa have all moved forward under Agar.'"
Whiting was young POTY, before Agar came he was a great player.
Briscoe, arguably would have been a star in any team.
Houghton yes i'll agree
Manu was always a beast, he's become more consistent but you could put that down to maturity.
Yeaman, you can't claim Agar's moved him forward at all he's just re-discovered his 05/06 form.
Westerman, needed a move because he'd gone stale at Cas. Hasn't been as good as their first year back in SL
Moa i'll agree.
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| Are we likely to seymour quality in the halves?
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| Quote ="barton baird"Are we likely to seymour quality in the halves?'"
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Seymour better be something special or I'm tearing up my season pass.'"
I'm tearing mine up anyway before I stick it in the recycling bin
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| Heremaia has a great kicking game and directs the warriors around the pitch, so i think we won't be relying solely on seymour. also if the halves are off the game we have ellis waiting in the wings as cover
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| Horne had a good game on Friday. Made two tries and several breaks, had we supported better these could have led to more tries.
His weakness is his long kicking game. He and Seymour should be a good combination with Heremaia helping with the kicking out of dummy half. The Ellis as back up for injuries or loss of form.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Horne had a good game on Friday. Made two tries and several breaks, had we supported better these could have led to more tries.
His weakness is his long kicking game. He and Seymour should be a good combination with Heremaia helping with the kicking out of dummy half. The Ellis as back up for injuries or loss of form.'"
Copier!
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Copier!
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Sorry mate never read yours, just read the first few posts and then commented
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Horne had a good game on Friday. Made two tries and several breaks, had we supported better these could have led to more tries.
His weakness is his long kicking game. He and Seymour should be a good combination with Heremaia helping with the kicking out of dummy half. The Ellis as back up for injuries or loss of form.'"
The lack of support for the man with the ball frustrates the hell out of me. It's such an easy area for us to improve along with improved dummy running
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| That's the problem with Horne,he is by far our best support player,but if he makes an half break 'there is knowbody there,hopefully this will be rectified with Mc Kinnon being a very good support player and a new coach.
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| Wasnt Peter Gentle a former halfback? If so if he doesn't get us scoring tries I doubt many coaches will!
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| Quote ="jehull"Wasnt Peter Gentle a former halfback? If so if he doesn't get us scoring tries I doubt many coaches will!'"
I thought that, too. I didnt take too much ftom it, though - Agar was a half-back!
I'm hoping that is where the similarities between Gentle and Agar end. I'm pretty confident it is.
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| Quote ="jehull" If so if he doesn't get us scoring tries I doubt many coaches will!'"
We have scored 28 of them in our last four games.
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| Quote ="Phil O'Stein"I thought that, too. I didnt take too much from it, though - Agar was a half-back!
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| Good point!
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| In all fairness, even of seymour isn't something 'special' he's still better than what we have now
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Key next year is having 4 first team halfbacks in Horne, Seymour, Ellis and Nicklas.
So hopefully this shoudl see the end of players like Turner, Obst, Westerman and Washbrook playing there.
Horne will do a good job if he is allowed to partner a proper halfback over a period of time and aloowed to play his own running game.
He hasn't has since Cooke left.
On another note, Ellis getting massive raps on the Leigh board, quiet excited about seeing him devleop next year, with a new coach and the right attitude he has all the potentail to make a top halfback IMO.
viewtopic.php?f=22&t=508133
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Key next year is having 4 first team halfbacks in Horne, Seymour, Ellis and Nicklas.
So hopefully this shoudl see the end of players like Turner, Obst, Westerman and Washbrook playing there.
Horne will do a good job if he is allowed to partner a proper halfback over a period of time and aloowed to play his own running game.
He hasn't has since Cooke left.
On another note, Ellis getting massive raps on the Leigh board, quiet excited about seeing him devleop next year, with a new coach and the right attitude he has all the potentail to make a top halfback IMO.
viewtopic.php?f=22&t=508133
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