Would go with that, if Washy is fit would bring him in for Lee and put Whiting for G.Horne, if Berro is fit wouldn't have Houghton on the bench although I like Danny as a player, Harlequins proved it with Chad Randall you can play a hooker for 80 minutes.

Yes but Berro was rubbish on Saturday.

I do agree though that in general we lose a lot of direction and speed when Berro goes off.

All I'm saying is we seem to be going down the Direction of we have to play two hookers and sometimes we bring Berro off for the sake of it.

Oh I agree and have been saying for a while the Danny isn't as good as some are making out on here. He needs time to develop other areas of his game and I think the pressure of first team rugby isn't allowing him to do that. Having Lee and Houghton on the bench is a waste. Id rather use Lee at Hooker IF Berro needs a 10 minute rest and then Lee can also spell the back row.

I suggest you watch the game again, Berigan was very good in the 1st half, he made loads of yards a few half breaks, of which not one was supported. We started to struggle when he went off.

However if he has a knock I would rest him this week, I would bring in Washbrook for him, Whiting for Lee and Thacks for Moa.

This should give us more options in attack.

His passing was shocking. Probably the worst I've seen him play in a Hull shirt.

Berrigan should be fit enough now to do 80 mins in my opinion

Personally think having houghton on the bench is a waste of him as a player and wasting berrigan on the bench. (Personally would send houghton on loan somewhere for plenty of gametime elsewhere)

Berrigan must be fit enough to do the 80 and our team in general look better with him in it as it gives us direction.

Would give dowes and cuasack a break and would give the other 4 props a chance to show us who is better/fitter and play for they're spots.

Would like to see a team like

Hall
Calderwood
Horne
Yeaman
Briscoe
Horne
Thorman
King
Berrigan
Maloney
Tickle
Whiting
Washbrook

Moa
Thackray
Lee
Manu

Give us good balanced team with impact of the bench and hopefully will give certain players more time on pitch to improve match fitness

Time to get controversial....



My team for next week.

Thorman - his kicking game is his best asset and that can still be used from full back.
Calderwood
Yeaman
G.Horne
Briscoe
Hall - needs to be more involved and less exposed
R.Horne
King
Houghton/Berrigan if fit.
Cusack
Tickle
Radford
Lee

Thackray
Manu
Washy
Whiting

oooh controversial!!!!

1 Hall
2 calderwood
3 whiting
4 yeaman
5 briscoe
6 R.horne
7 Thorman
8 Thackray
9 Berrigan
10 Cusack
11 Tickle
12 Radford
13 Lee

14 King
15 Moa
16 G.horne
17 washbrook

Give dowes a week off and if Berrigan isnt 100% then Houghton to start.

Houghton is supposed to come on and impact around the ruck but he seems to be doing less of that this season. Without he scoots he is not the same player, I would agree Lee adds more control at the ptb than Danny.

That was/is Dannys strength and his enjoyment in doing that was visible, he hasn't lost it he's just not using it for whatever reason, possibly/probably instructed to do so.

Manu?:S

Thorman should be no where near the FB spot, he needs to be at halfback or we will have even less organisation at halfback than we have now.

Horne isnt a 7, as he has proved on many occasions int he past, his perforamnces this season with Thorman have been excellent this season, apart from Saturday.

We the players we have coming back Lee shouldnt be anywhere near the 17.

Our main problem is we are too predictable, and that comes now to coaching and selection IMO.

Aren't you the smart one mr knaggs!

We have too much organisation and not enough flair and imagination


You're right Horne isn't a 7, but in all honesty it doesn't matter what position you play him he'll still play the same way and with Thorman at FB he can spend the time we are in possession in the line and playing his normal game, leaving Horne to play his.


Great reward for an improved season so far, he's been one of our better players so lets drop him just because his name is Tommy Lee.




So why would you drop one of the few players that will do things off the cuff (Lee) and leave the other one (Hall) stood twiddling his thumbs at Full Back?

I think you are wrong on all four of your points.
For the record i don't think we should drop Tommy atm. Which is what i think Dave.K meant by saying we have better players coming back.

tommy lee does a job for the team but we wana b one of the top teams and would he get anywhere near the saints or leeds squads - nope . he's not the only 1 aswel .

Precisely. Was a good prospect, but no longer up to the standard we want to be. That said, i'm not saying we should get rid of him either, not just yet

Please can we get off the tl debate being going for 3 years now and has not worked out. he may have played well on saturday in some peoples eyes but come on .....

The bench is a joke. We are playing with 3 hookers in Berrigan , Hougton and lee. We need to play with one and stack the bench with Thackery Washy, whiting and sam .

This allows us to move the pack around send yeaman to second row and bring whiting in at either centre or stand off (the position we bought him for)

more ball players and more flexibility .

My team for sunday:-

1. Hall
2. Calderwood
3. Whiting
4. Yeaman
5. Briscoe
6. Horne
7. Thorman
8. King
9. Berrigan
10. Cusack
11. Manu
12. Tickle
13. Radford

14. Dowes
15. Thackray
16. Washbrook
17. Horne

And plan B could be to bring on G. Horne and move whiting to LF or bringing on washbrook to LF with whiting spelling manu/tickle in the 2nd row if you swap him with G.Horne.

1. Whiting
2. Calderwood
3. Hall
4. Yeaman
5. Briscoe
6. R.Horne
7. Thorman
8. King
9. Berrigan
10. Maloney
11. Manu
12. Tickle
13. Radford

14. Dowes
15. Thackray
16. Washbrook
17. G.Horne

1. Hall
2. Calderwood
3. Whiting
4. Yeaman
5. Briscoe
6. R.Horne
7. Thorman
8. Dowes
9. Lee
10. King
11. Radford
12. Tickle
13. Washbrook

14. Maloney or Cusack
15. Thackray
16. Manu
17. G.Horne

I'd play Lee in his best position and completely rest Berro ready for easter. Looked jaded and potentially carrying a knock in London. Maybe rest Cusack for MAloney (not sure on that) and limit Dowes game time. Should be enough to beat Salford Lee has been playing well and could spark us.

Berro's still gfot a knock on his neck from Bradford would rest him this week