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| we made opportunities in our last two games and never took them,its individual poor decision making/errors what cost us ,like Sneyd failing to pass to Micheals when he was clear and Sa dropping the ball with a clear run...how is that Radfords fault ?? come on get real
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| Quote ="hokeydokey"we made opportunities in our last two games and never took them,its individual poor decision making/errors what cost us ,like Sneyd failing to pass to Micheals when he was clear and Sa dropping the ball with a clear run...how is that Radfords fault ?? come on get real'"
That's it. it's decision making, keeping concentration when knackered, attitude & desire to provide the option or dummy play, things like that is what Radford's talking about.
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| we had enough chances to win Catalans and leeds. but we didn't purely because of the execution. players no making the right pass. players not taking the ball, players in general making the wrong decision.
im not radders biggest fan but you cant blame that on him.
just needs to click for us. for some teams, it works no matter what they do, other teams have to try hard to make it work...we are the latter
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| What's happed to James Webster coming to Hull ? Sounds like he's Eels bound now .
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| Things were going well until it was announced Lineham was leaving. Now i'm not suggesting that it's the sole reason, but he hasn't played since and I know the club weren't happy with having to announce it mid-season. Maybe words have been said and it's unsettled the group a little?
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| Same old record, we play poor, it's the players or the fans, play well and it's down to Radford...
How we play, how we execute, the attitude of the players is more down to the coach than the players themselves.
All those things above are down to the coach, it's down to him to ensure that players don't waiver from the plan, it's his job to drill the players in such a way that everything they do with regard to execution is 2nd nature even when under duress & tiredness (a sports psychologist is massively important in this aspect), it's the coaches job to recognise when a player is knackered & needs subbing BEFORE he makes that critical error, it's the coaches job to adjust how the team play on the fly.
Yes the players have to do things on the pitch but saying that if the players aren't executing, aren't putting in the effort, aren't backing up, making incorrect decision etc is just down to the players isn't accurate.
What the coach does, how he prepares the players both individually & as a team, how he instills confidence, mental fortitude, how to address every aspect of playing RL at the highest level is the biggest part of what happens on the field.
We have a decent squad/team, we've shown in small spurts how good we can be, and there have being some really good performances, however it's all so on and off even through our decent run we had some patchy performances/wins, atm it's being more off than on hence 8th position, that is down to the coach both the good and the bad.
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| Things have certainly gone downhill in the last couple of games, both of which were very winnable against an injury hit les cats and an out of sorts leeds. What has happened to the rampaging pack that steamrollered rovers and widnes, what has happened to the aggressive defence we saw in those games? What has happened to the side who stuck 40 points on cas? Seems we've regressed to our early season habits
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| Given Lineham was announced as leaving and then coincidentally 'dropped' along with the murmerings regarding Shaul (and we know what the head coach truly thinks of him already) I don't think it's that surprising there's being a dip.
IMO our coaching personnel isn't that good/isn't good enough to take this team further, if we break into the top 6 by end of the season it'll be a miracle but would at least prove that we have stood still compared to 2012/13 and not gone backwards.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Same old record, we play poor, it's the players or the fans, play well and it's down to Radford...
How we play, how we execute, the attitude of the players is more down to the coach than the players themselves.
All those things above are down to the coach, it's down to him to ensure that players don't waiver from the plan, it's his job to drill the players in such a way that everything they do with regard to execution is 2nd nature even when under duress & tiredness (a sports psychologist is massively important in this aspect), it's the coaches job to recognise when a player is knackered & needs subbing BEFORE he makes that critical error, it's the coaches job to adjust how the team play on the fly.
Yes the players have to do things on the pitch but saying that if the players aren't executing, aren't putting in the effort, aren't backing up, making incorrect decision etc is just down to the players isn't accurate.
What the coach does, how he prepares the players both individually & as a team, how he instills confidence, mental fortitude, how to address every aspect of playing RL at the highest level is the biggest part of what happens on the field.
We have a decent squad/team, we've shown in small spurts how good we can be, and there have being some really good performances, however it's all so on and off even through our decent run we had some patchy performances/wins, atm it's being more off than on hence 8th position, that is down to the coach both the good and the bad.'" It makes you wonder why "good" coaches ever lose matches.
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| Some people just can't wait for an opportunity.
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| Quote ="*1865*"Some people just can't wait for an opportunity.'"
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| Quote ="*1865*"Some people just can't wait for an opportunity.'"
To be fair there have been plenty of them in the last season and a half
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| Magic weekend hangover? I think the team that wins always has a downturn in form, the losers always seem to improve after. We beat Widnes after now seem to of lost momentum - Rovers on the other hand have found form since, even without Campese. Seems to happen most seasons too
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"To be fair there have been plenty of them in the last season and a half'"
I agree, you're at least fair and have praised the team when due. It was aimed at certain posters that seem to hardly ever post when the teams in form, but all over the board like a rash when there's been a couple of defeats.
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| Quote ="ccs"It makes you wonder why "good" coaches ever lose matches.'"
You don't get it do you? where did I at any point say that losing was virtually impossible with a 'good' coach?
No, it lessens the chances of losing, 'very good' coaches are able to get a better overall std out of their players more often than weaker coaches. Darryl Powell is a prime example of a very good coach with players that perform more often than they don't with on paper as individuals a weaker squad than ours over the last 1.5 seasons.
You can have all the talent in the world but you still need a 'good' coach to bring that out of you/to perform to your best consistantly, all the greatest athletes/teams have/have had great coaches behind them.
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Magic weekend hangover? I think the team that wins always has a downturn in form, the losers always seem to improve after. We beat Widnes after now seem to of lost momentum - Rovers on the other hand have found form since, even without Campese. Seems to happen most seasons too'"
We've had Catalans and Leeds away whereas they've had three homes games against midtable teams and lost one of them. The only away games Widnes have won were at the bottom two.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Given Lineham was announced as leaving and then coincidentally 'dropped' along with the murmerings regarding Shaul (and we know what the head coach truly thinks of him already) I don't think it's that surprising there's being a dip.
IMO our coaching personnel isn't that good/isn't good enough to take this team further, if we break into the top 6 by end of the season it'll be a miracle but would at least prove that we have stood still compared to 2012/13 and not gone backwards.'"
why dont you just go and support someone else ,all you ever do is have digs ,never say anything positive even when they win,this dip as you call it has seen us beat at catalans were in all fairness were the better side and only dodgy calls cost us. Beat at Leeds were not many teams go and win,lost Mini and pryce again had some really dodgy calls against us and regardless what you say we took them all the way and if not for individual errors which is not the coaches fault we would have beaten a top side. To say your annoying is a understatement .If you dont like what is going on then do one ,what we need now is fans to back the club not pratts like you who do the club no good at all. Constructive criticism yes the same boring crap NO
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| My original post was to ascertain if fans think, Radford needed an assistant to aid our execution in attack...
As a Defence Coach, I think Radford is excellent , but I feel we dont possess anyone on the staff that could help our execution.
IMO .. Execution within the team is only improved through repetitive practice under duress.
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| Quote ="weaver93"My original post was to ascertain if fans think, Radford needed an assistant to aid our execution in attack...
As a Defence Coach, I think Radford is excellent , but I feel we dont possess anyone on the staff that could help our execution.
IMO .. Execution within the team is only improved through repetitive practice under duress.'"
I'm not too sure, I think Radford's spot on in his assessment, certain teams we fold under pressure against.
Where I don't agree with Radford is on the idea it's not fixable by him and the staff, as coach he needs to instill the belief in to the team, he's certainly done it with their defence. IF we were certain an attack coach could make a difference then i'd be all for it, but don't see it being just a structure/skill set issue.
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| Quote ="*1865*"I agree, you're at least fair and have praised the team when due. It was aimed at certain posters that seem to hardly ever post when the teams in form, but all over the board like a rash when there's been a couple of defeats.'"
If that's aimed at me then you're talking nonsense, I post whether we win or lose, I give praise when we deserve it and have done so often. I am objective when it comes to assessing how we play and why, the way a few post on here they are not.
I explain my reasoning in depth without resorting to abuse and general child like responses, I've only bitten back when the usual posters start with their hateful reponses directed solely at me.
So, when people disagree that's fine, but instead of going into one with the usual vile or petty responses it'd make more sense to come up with a counter arguement to prove your/their point.
Our execution on the whole this last 1.5 seasons has being below par, there are reasons for that, the buck stops with the coach, it couldn't be any more simple than that.
The sad thing is that Radford can't/won't accept that he's at fault in any way, it's always someone else (players/fans etc)
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| Quote ="Doom&Gloom Merchant"Yup.'"
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"If that's aimed at me then you're talking nonsense, I post whether we win or lose, I give praise when we deserve it and have done so often. I am objective when it comes to assessing how we play and why, the way a few post on here they are not.
I explain my reasoning in depth without resorting to abuse and general child like responses, I've only bitten back when the usual posters start with their hateful reponses directed solely at me.
So, when people disagree that's fine, but instead of going into one with the usual vile or petty responses it'd make more sense to come up with a counter arguement to prove your/their point.
Our execution on the whole this last 1.5 seasons has being below par, there are reasons for that, the buck stops with the coach, it couldn't be any more simple than that.
The sad thing is that Radford can't/won't accept that he's at fault in any way, it's always someone else (players/fans etc)'"
You mean like calling Lee Radford "a turd"?
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"You don't get it do you? where did I at any point say that losing was virtually impossible with a 'good' coach?
No, it lessens the chances of losing, 'very good' coaches are able to get a better overall std out of their players more often than weaker coaches. Darryl Powell is a prime example of a very good coach with players that perform more often than they don't with on paper as individuals a weaker squad than ours over the last 1.5 seasons.
You can have all the talent in the world but you still need a 'good' coach to bring that out of you/to perform to your best consistantly, all the greatest athletes/teams have/have had great coaches behind them.'"
Are you saying that Darryl Powell can get a better sexually transmitted disease at Cas than Radford could at Hull?
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"You don't get it do you? where did I at any point say that losing was virtually impossible with a 'good' coach?
No, it lessens the chances of losing, 'very good' coaches are able to get a better overall std out of their players more often than weaker coaches. Darryl Powell is a prime example of a very good coach with players that perform more often than they don't with on paper as individuals a weaker squad than ours over the last 1.5 seasons.
You can have all the talent in the world but you still need a 'good' coach to bring that out of you/to perform to your best consistantly, all the greatest athletes/teams have/have had great coaches behind them.'"
Totally agree with this..
Powell by his own admission, has tinkered a few things,
with Cas, he does have 2 ex halfbacks on his staff, Sheridan for mine was an underrated player, but his forte was organising with a decent kicking game.
IMO,we are close to being a very good side, IF we can fix up our execution..
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| Quote ="weaver93"IMO,we are close to being a very good side, IF we can fix up our execution..'"
that's why were 8th with an abysmal home record???
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