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| Quote ="TKOAH"The same point as sacking Sharp and appointing Agar or maybe sacking Kear and putting Agar in temporary charge. Shows that the club aren't willing to accept the poop that is currently going on there.
As for no right centre, doesn't seem to have effected Saints too much (not replaced Talau) or Leeds (only Senior is a recognised first team centre)'"
But ultimately they are, because the replacement is no better than the original, it's just change for the sake of it. Let's say Agar is replaced with Jon Sharp. Is he the man to take us to the top 4? No, IMO. I'd rather negotiate for however long it takes to get a world class coach. Don't understand what paying off Agar to replace him with Sharp would achieve, other than possibly the brief improvement in results that a change in coach usually brings.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"But ultimately they are, because the replacement is no better than the original, it's just change for the sake of it. Let's say Agar is replaced with Jon Sharp. Is he the man to take us to the top 4? No, IMO. I'd rather negotiate for however long it takes to get a world class coach. Don't understand what paying off Agar to replace him with Sharp would achieve, other than possibly the brief improvement in results that a change in coach usually brings.'"
We put Sharp in temporary charge (for the rest of this season) and negotiate for a top coach in the mean time. This season as gone and keeping Agar here for longer than necessary will only damage the club further.
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| Quote ="TKOAH"We put Sharp in temporary charge (for the rest of this season) and negotiate for a top coach in the mean time. This season as gone and keeping Agar here for longer than necessary will only damage the club further.'"
A nice plan, but Sharp turned down a job in Aus to come back to FC. Not sure that he'd want a caretaker coach role.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"A nice plan, but Sharp turned down a job in Aus to come back to FC. Not sure that he'd want a caretaker coach role.'"
Once the new guy is on board he can then go back to his current role at the club, he won't lose out.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"So, what do people want the club to do? No room on the cap to bring in better players this season, assuming Crocker and Lauaki get their visas.'"
as I said, a better coach would get a better performance out of our current set of players
despite playing poorly we have not lost by many in every defeat except Saints, a better coach getting just a few % more out of every player would have won us those games.
in the short term (ie 2009) we need someone to get better performances from our current set of players because that is the best we can hope for (due to the players having contracts) but obviously in the medium term salary cap space becomes free.
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| Quote ="TKOAH"We put Sharp in temporary charge (for the rest of this season) and negotiate for a top coach in the mean time. This season as gone and keeping Agar here for longer than necessary will only damage the club further.'"
Sharp would be no improvement over Agar. The only thing that sacking Agar would achieve is some satisfaction for pi$$ed off fans. It will be cheaper and better PR to keep the status quo while looking for a quality replacement.
The season's gone, and there's no relegation. Why run around like headless chickens?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I completely agree with all that. People on here are saying they're withdrawing their support unless the board "do something". My point is that options for immediate action are very limited. If we sack Agar, there aren't better alternatives available right now.'"
there would be coaches available if word got round that FC were offering big money
we offered big money to Berrigan and Crocker and we got them signed up, quite why we don't do the same with the coach is beyond me, they are throwing their money away year after year if they don't get a coach capable of coaching the players effectively.
if they sack Agar and get Jon Sharp I for one aren't giving the club another penny, and i suspect many of our fans feel the same.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Raynor, Tony, Manu, Crocker, Lauaki, Yeaman, Thackray, King all internationals at some point. Cusack will be on a fair wedge as well - was captain at Rabbitohs AFAIK. Berro and Crocker will be on well in excess of £100k I'd imagine.'"
If you are paying them to sit on their ar$es why didnt the board put in a stipulation in the contract saying 'Visa conformation'. Its called covering all bases.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"If you are paying them to sit on their ar$es why didnt the board put in a stipulation in the contract saying 'Visa conformation'. Its called covering all bases.'"
Rule confirmed they aren't paying them at the moment
but in terms of the salary cap I'm sure they will still count, as the RFL wouldn't allow us to sign anyone else in their place until we have confirmation they aren't coming.
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| Quote ="UllFC"Rule confirmed they aren't paying them at the moment
but in terms of the salary cap I'm sure they will still count, as the RFL wouldn't allow us to sign anyone else in their place until we have confirmation they aren't coming.'"
Really? So I've signed a contract with you but your not paying me. Not my fault you didnt see me being refused entry.
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| Quote ="UllFC"Rule confirmed they aren't paying them at the moment
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Not what the stories out of Aus say........
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"A nice plan, but Sharp turned down a job in Aus to come back to FC. Not sure that he'd want a caretaker coach role.'" i just think this situation goes deeper than the coach,i think its a player problem and we have a complete bad bunch....
hindsite is a great thing but we have already signed average players on longer contracts.
this is due to money allowed from the board, so the sitution we are in is not an easy fix.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Really? So I've signed a contract with you but your not paying me. Not my fault you didnt see me being refused entry.'"
But entirely your fault that you cant get clearance to enter the country in which your contract requires you to work. Jog on.
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| Quote ="gafar"i just think this situation goes deeper than the coach,i think its a player problem and we have a complete bad bunch....
hindsite is a great thing but we have already signed average players on longer contracts.
this is due to money allowed from the board, so the sitution we are in is not an easy fix.'"
Whilst I wouldn't say it's a complete bad bunch we do lack the quality players to be a top side for sure. Absolutely no doubt about it.
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| Quote ="Kosh"HISA had the temerity to say something unflattering about the club to the media.
Huge overreaction by the club IMO. Mind you, it was probably just a convenient excuse to do something they had been planning to do anyway.
They got away with it because people just aren't interested in organisations like HISA until the sh[ii[/it hits the fan.'"
thats it in a nutshell. well that and threatning legal action against me
Wonder if i still have a copy of the "cash cow" article
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Whilst I wouldn't say it's a complete bad bunch we do lack the quality players to be a top side for sure. Absolutely no doubt about it.'" yes we do lack quality players like i just said we are a bad bunch, yes of course i want to be a top side, but can you name one player we have that would replace a saints player in a top side?
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| So - what do the FC voices do then? What do HISA get involved with (if anything considering the club don't recognise them)....and what about the fans forum....how often are these held? Anyone have any idea?
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| Quote ="Wollagong Way"What do HISA get involved with (if anything considering the club don't recognise them'"
nothing these days
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| Quote ="Wollagong Way"So - what do the FC voices do then? What do HISA get involved with (if anything considering the club don't recognise them)....and what about the fans forum....how often are these held? Anyone have any idea?
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Sweet F.A'"
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| Quote ="gafar"i just think this situation goes deeper than the coach,i think its a player problem and we have a complete bad bunch....
hindsite is a great thing but we have already signed average players on longer contracts.
this is due to money allowed from the board, so the sitution we are in is not an easy fix.'"
but surely a good coach would sort the trouble makers out. Sharp was quick to axe Brough and Thackray despite their 2005 form, and whilst obviously his coaching went bad at the end, he at least seemed to be in control of the dressing room...just was useless at recruitment and never had a planB tactics wise.
Agar has never struck me as a leader, could you imagine him managing you in your workplace? (whatever industry that may be in)
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"But entirely your fault that you cant get clearance to enter the country in which your contract requires you to work. Jog on.'"
Meanwhile you pay me. Jog on.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Meanwhile you pay me. Jog on.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Meanwhile you pay me. Jog on.
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