??? i wish i was that popular

Are you suggesting he isn't an aussie forward then?

You are wasting your time mate. We have signed a good player who will be our second hooker and strengthen us as well as providing some genuine halfback cover. It also makes no odds to next years quota players.

Result imo.

Wrong.

clever little player too

So any winger who scored more tries than briscoe last season is a better player?

Is the whole of your life this simplistic?

Still think there's enough cap to squeeze another back in mid-season. Obviously would have to be British.

In your opinion? Even if the ip address is different it's easy enough to change.

too much conflict for me tonight , goodnight

I'm suggesting that if stats mean nothing, then Fitz being the highest scoring forward in Aussi history means nothing. Stats define who players are. If someone asked you to to describe Longy, I'm sure one of the first things said would be '3 times Lance Todd Trophy winner'.

Agreed. Result.

no, but if you take his entire stats, runs,tackle busts,tackles etc etc..he will outstrip most other wingers, hence him playing for gb....
thats what im saying, if you take the whole picture which is what stats prove......then the top performers will undoubtadly be the best

Are they? maybe with some context but people will be saying how great houghton and fitz are because they made a stack of tackles yesterday, but they both played the whole 80 minutes. How effective were they overall in the game? How much more impact might they have had if they'd been spelled?

The limited amount of statistical information we see as fans gives very little clue to a player's effectiveness. clubs have access to significantly more information which allows them to build a better picture of player performance

He doesn't need his IP address, expro is making him a coffee

I'd say you understand nothing about statistics

Would have been over the moon 7 years ago. He'll be 32 next year.

You just told me that the person who scores most tries is the best. Are you now telling me you're wrong?

So use other stats for the context. Graham is normally always at the top for metres gained, but Saints play him for at least 60 minutes per game. But when you see he also makes more metres per carry and more carries than most you see why he's rightly regarded as one of the top 3 props in the game.

I understand that if a player has similar stats, and does more tackles busts and kicks in general play then his predecessor, then I am happy with them signing.

Anyway, what does it matter if I don't understand them if they 'mean nothing'?

So now you'd prefer Phelps? The quota spot is irrelevant then.

I don't need stats to tell me graham is one of the best props in the game. Are you a maths teacher?

Professor, actually.



But, you'd actually have the stats to back it up.

Don't know, haven't seen how he'll do for us yet. Just saying that Minichiello would be a questionable signing at his age and with his injury record.

I'd opt for 'ridiculous' or 'foolish' myself.

Oh yeah, i agree.