i think we have got room for both without anybody leaving.
but i dont think we could bring in another 2 internationals.

I still doubt we will bring in a centre, Byrne, Hall, Briscoe, Horne and Whiting can all play there and I can't see us bringing in another one. More likely to sign a centre and a SH this time next year when we have quota spots available. Will also allow Agar to see how Hall and Briscoe develop.

The thing is we have enough average players in the squad as it is, if we are to strengthen then it needs to be with quality, therefore for me i`d rather have 1 top signing rather than two average signings.

tbh i dont know how much we've got left on the cap if we've got £300,000 then we can bring in 2 players because, as i see it, because we only have 23 out of 25 'top earners'.

He was, they also had to put up with some horror shows from him for a season or so but saints always prefer to pair a weaker winger who knows where the try line is with a top class centre who can help defensively and virtually hand them openings on a plate.
We go the other way and sign a top class winger and put him outside a centre who couldn't unlock a door never mind a defence.

Looking at the team for next season so far we will probably line up something like this:-

Tony
Calderwood
Horne
Yeaman
Raynor
Horne
Dykes
Radford
Berrigan
King
Crocker
Tickle
Washbrook

Cusack
Thackray
Manu
Houghton

So players out of the 17 will be:-

Byrne, Briscoe, Hall, Whiting, Thorman, Dowes, Lee, Burnett and Maloney.

We seem to have enough cover for the backs so IMO I think we need to sign another prop. Signing another centre does not seem a must. Yes we lack a real quality centre to play alongside Yeaman but the only guy out there just now seems to be Talau and I am not sure it is worth it for a year tbh. All that would do is limit the progession of Hall and Briscoe.

Could it also not help their development, seeing another good centre?

i was thinking

tony
calderwood
R horne
yeaman
raynor
thorman
dykes
radford
berrigan
cusack
crocker
tickle
washbrook

thackray
manu
dowes
houghton

Possibly but imo they need gametime. If Briscoe/Hall don't get the games we can't judge them properley. If they get a chance and it does not work out then at least Agar knows that when Byrne goes at the end of the season we need a top centre as the youngsters are not ready. If Briscoe/Hall go really well then we may not need to sign one.

Tony
Calderwood
Hall
Yeaman
Raynor
Horne
Dykes
Dowes
Berrigan
King
Crocker
Tickle
Washbrook

Houghton
Manu
Cusack
Thackray

That would be my team if we had a game tomorrow and everybody was fit.

That team is good enough to challenge for the six.

Only issues with that team are 1) I think Radders will be given a spot and 2) Agar seems to favour Horne over Hall.

Why have you put Horne at centre as they guy is the definition of average and the only reason he got so much praise for last season was due to how low our expections of him are.

put rich horne at centre

Its what I think Agar will do and not what I would do. Agar seems to favour Horne over Hall. I personally would pick Hall and give him some backing. I would also only pick one of Radford/Tickle.

I agree i think Radford will get shoehorned in somehow and Agar doesnt like Hall fullstop. I was picking what i think is the strongest 17 in my opinion.

radford in front of dowes and i think graeme will be moved back into the back row for cover.

hopefully with a real good off season and having rich horne and crocker along side him in defence hall will come on.

Ahhhh thought you were putting what you would pick not what you think Agar will go with.

Does anyone think that well get rid of both Dykes and Webbo having signed Thorman?

6 Horne
7 Thorman

and cover in the form of Lee

Oh dear

thats going to stir them up again




No I think Dykes will be here next season as planned

AND ANNOY ME OFF HAHA

That would make no sense whatsoever, Webbo as gone replaced by Thorman if we lose Dykes as well we are in a worse state than this year.

Oh and I'm still being told Lee is on his way out and looking for another club.

dont wind me up ha

How would getting rid of two players who have hardly given anything to the club this year in terms of one field activity be a backward step.

Granted i dont rate Thorman that highly, but having two half backs on the field for 28-29 rounds would be better than having 43 half back combinations a year, wouldnt it?