How can hitting somebody's chin with a stiff arm be called a tackle, it doesn't matter what you or I think it it will be the panels decision what matters, fwiw I hope he gets off because it won't help us even if he gets a ban.
As for growing up, maybe you need to look at your own attitude towards people with a different opinion to yours before giving out advice.

Some fair posts off the Wakey fans, once we tighten up that right side I moaned about at HT, there was only one winner, for 60 minutes we were easily the best side and they struggled with our go forward and quick play of the balls, 2nd half we broke at will and with more composure would have had the game won earlier.

Stand out players were mini, Sneyd and Shaul.

All the forwards did well and Talanoa finished brilliantly.

Pryce didn't look fit, but still made a difference in attack, Fonua isn't a centre, but did improve 2nd half.

There comeback came when Manu was off and we missed his defence when he was subbed and they scored three try's

Try using both eyes when watching the video.

It's not a stiff arm. Ellis' arm comes around to wrap up man and ball but a combination of his timing being off and Simon's head dropping leads to accidental contact.

He may well pick up a ban for contact with head, accidental or not, but some of the rubbish being spouted by certain Wakey fans is laughable.

It's a classic stiff arm, fist clenched, swinging forearm aimed at the face and head.
Paul Rose would have been proud of it!

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 I thought it was a good game and that the best team won. That hull pack is special and I think that only the catalan pack can match them on their day. I thought minacello made a big difference for them when he came on. 

Despite how good hull were we had chances to win the game and we perhaps needed a bit more composure in the 2nd half. 

I thought miller played well and was a constant threat to them and I was pleased to see Gibson have a good game in both attack and defence. 

I came away pleased as we gave 100% and ran a good team close but unfortunately on the day they were just a bit better than we were.

beat catalan by 51 and we go second...

You're watching a different clip to the one I've seen. On the one published by your oh-so-professional Chairman there's no clenched fist and contact is with the upper arm.

Fonua looks really immobile IMO like he''s carrying an injury to his knee which is restricting his movement .

Sneyd has been excellent for weeks now and shaul is the best FB in the comp currently, I also thought te bin man was back to his best today. I think we've missed his go forward since he got injured at widnes. We were all over widnes up to his injury

26 actually, as their points difference would come down as well as our's going up



We'd need Warrington to beat Wigan too.

I am using both my eyes and clearly we have two different interpretations of the incident, had the situation been reversed I'm sure you would have a different opinion to the one you have now.
Ellis is not a dirty player by any stretch of the imagination but imo intent or not, and there's only him will know that, but he's got things wrong and made illegal contact with Simon, and it's noticeable that you now think he'll probably get a ban.
I'd just like to say in defence of the Wakey fans that both on here and on the Wakey board I have not seen one poster that has not been gracious in defeat towards your teams win today so why you feel the need to say we are spouting rubbish is beyond me.

Feckin ell. It's been a long day.

Maybe it's the 5 page thread on the wakey board about the ref?

Ref was fine, generally let the game go, could have penalised both teams more, always get some fans if the losing team picking out the refs faults. According to that thread Hull were always off side, never played the ball in the correct place and constantly holding down, on Twitter a Wakey fan even claimed the 40/20 (take note bumby) wasn't a 40/20.

Wakey are lucky as if Child was Reffing they would have had something to moan about.

There were some incidents I didn't think went our way but as said above we were beaten by a better side.
We did well in the game but we're just too busted in the end.
Lyne going off made a big difference as you got a few breaks where a second row was covering centre.

Hope you do well this season. I'd like to see Hull shake things up at the top.

PS a lot of the ref thread on our board is about the game, not just the ref.

And you'd be wrong.


I said he [imay[/i get a ban. And that's largely down to my low opinion of the panel.


To be clear - spouting rubbish about this incident, not the match in general. Although some of the stuff about Silverwood is a little far fetched if understandable.

Stats tell the story of the game for me. I thought we were pretty dominant and other than a 20 minute spell we controlled the game and really, overall, the scoreline flattered wakey. All the whining about the ref on their board is pathetic

I never get whining about refs, it is the same ref for both teams so bad decisions will go to both teams throughout the game, wrong refereeing decisions are part or every sport.

Spot on there Dave lad, too much said about Silverwood taking the gloss off a very good hard fought game, played in the right spirit as well.

Great stats for Shaul. Obviously some distance behind Hardaker this term, but still:
1 Try
2 Assists
6 Tackle Busts
3 Attacking Kicks
178 Metres
9.4m Av gain

Just 42 tackles for Houghton this week, shocker. Mini's average gain 14.1m.

I'm not sure he's that far behind him. Defence is Hardaker's strongest area, as well as his sheer work rate, but in attack he's pretty average and easy to pick out and wrap up because he doesn't have that footwork to create a gap, and you know he's unlikely to find a killer pass.

Hardaker; 1 try, 2 assists, 49 busts, 1,166meters, 6 clean breaks, 15 offloads
Shaul; 9 tries, 5 assists, 48 busts, 1,506meters, 11 clean breaks, 5 offloads
Hardaker may have missed a couple more games than Shaul

Grow up? Yeah, alright Dad...

A man already motionless and held by two tacklers, not expecting it takes one right on the button...and that's OK in your world?

If that had been a Wigan player on one of yours I'm sure you would be calling it very differently!

I like Gaz Ellis, always have done having watched him come through the ranks from academy to first team and all what's followed in his career. He's not and never has been a dirty player but that doesn't excuse that tackle IMO..

I think he could be looking at three games plus personally...he was penalised early on for a cannonball tackle, 3rd man in...did that on Simon, and was involved in the tackle that left Tupou needing 15 stitches and from what I've heard looks worse than that one...

Maybe our chairman is getting just a little peed off at the inconsistency from the disciplinary panel when we've had bans for Arona and Scruton for nothing tackles then last week a Sheffield player injures Arundel for a month with a needless cannonball tackle, clear as day on the video and gets away no case to answer..

Let's see what happens...

Indeed, and your chairman has done Gareth a massive favour by bleating on social media. Enjoy the bottom 4, it's higher than Wakefield belong.

Absolutely!

On resources and everything we should be rock bottom again...quite enjoyable continually proving the doubters wrong...we've come a long way already in the last two years and are a definite work in progress and a big improvement on last year...

according to vastman you should have had a new ground by now and making finals every year.!