Maybe they're just not fit enough.

Anyway, rovers rode their luck, got the benefit of a dubious VR decision, cats had 4 tries chalked off by the VR and missed 3 conversions so really should have won it but you take whatever comes your way as we did at Manchester and rovers did last night

Hard to know what we'll do as we are so inconsistent.

one thing is for certain, if we do turn up and lose so limply as we did in the league 2 weeks ago...it will be clear that Gentle isn't the coach we need.

Well that must be the full set. Nearly all the players have been crucified and now it's the coach's turn.

If he can't motivate his players for what will be the biggest game of the season, then he isn't the man to take this club forward.

I like Gentle, and I have seen a lot of positives with what he has done with the first team squad and particularly with the young players who now sit on the fringe of the first team...but at the same time you can't deny that after 1.5years in charge, we are still in the same middle of the road, mid-table going nowhere position we have been in for the last 6 seasons.

He has proven that we can compete with big sides on our day (Wigan at home, Wire away and Leeds at home) but what good is that when your losing to Cas, Widnes, drawing at London etc? The pressure is most definitely on for him to deliver now.

Our structures are miles better than they ever were. Our coach at long last is prepared to drop players based on form. Our coach is prepared to give young players a chance. Hopefully he'll get 2-3 years more to bring the medium/long term turnaround to fruition despite fans like yourself trying to make it harder for him to stay.

Don't be daft - I'm sure that Limpdick would have brought up any questionable decisions in his post match interview if that was the case.

I can't believe some people, years of giving Agar a chance and they want rid of Gentle when we are vastly improved....

Spot on, we where never going to challenge this year, although we are still in the cup so who knows. I know we always say it but I think we'll see a big improvement next year, especially with all the experience the young lads will have got from this year. Will do them the world of good.

We only need look at the off field stuff, yes AP has spent money, but I am sure PG has been instrumental in where and and what.

We played poorly at Catalans and should have had Castleford put away after 20 minutes, that isn't just down to Gentle, IMHO.

It's the inconsitencey that's the worry.

Our home form is just about holding up which gives us our current position.
Let's be honest, we've been poor in both derbies, poor at Widnes, Catalans and Cas. Solidly beat away at Leeds and Huddersfield. Scraped a draw in London and a point against a very average Saints team and struggled to beat Salford by six if I remember rightly.

We were good at the HJ though.

We are vastly improved, but doubts are starting to creep in that Gentle has that winning instinct and that ruthless edge, the club (both players and coaching staff) seem too laid back at times for me. We don't seem to have that 'anything less than a convincing win isn't good enough' mentality that separates the winners from the also-rans.

Regarding Gentle, didn't AP and PG say we would be in a transitional period (Can't remember exact phrase) for 2-3 years after Pearson himself said the club was ran badly.

That goes from players to training to commercial.

I didn't expect us to be Champions overnight, but by the second half of year 2 I expect to see something better on the field. We seem to keep pushing to the next level (Wire & Leeds games) but then slipping back a few steps again. Getting up to that level and staying there is Gentle's biggest challenge.

Statement of the obvious really. The club is in transition on all levels. AP will give Gentle 2 more years at least if he wants them I reckon and rightly so.

If anything we seem to lack leaders on the field.

If cats had been awarded the tries the VR had disallowed and kicked their goals they would have scored 50

You mean the no tries!! What a ridiculous statement.

If the ground had opened up and the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse had come out it most likely would have needed replaying.

Listened to the game on Humberside and even they said at least 2 should of been given. But you win some you lose some.

You wont have any difficulty beating them then.

John Kear didn't seem to agree on SL full time. Who's RL knowkedge would you trust more JK or gwillum?

Having watched the tries again the only one I thought we lucked out on was Edens first try, could have been given as grounded.

I was more meaning that cats had created enough opportunity to have hammered you and on another day would have had a convincing victory. Don't worry, it's the VR's evening things up from the magic weekend

Rovers got lucky playing them away from the Stade, we wont have that luck

Credit when credits due rover got a good result . The dobbins at my work are acting like they have won a final bless'em

It was the Video Ref doing his job properly.

You've already played them away from the Stade