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| Quote ="ComeOnYouWolves"Your a bigger side than we are across the park, except Shaul who is playing well. Our last 3 Challenge Cups we've had a pack or front row that could dominate with Carvell, Morley, Wood, etc. This time I dont we can do that. I hope for a good game, and i dread the feeling of travelling all that way home having lost. It was bad enough after the 2 GF's and that was only 20 mins journey home, i cant image 3-4 hours! Best of luck, but not too much if you get my drift, enjoy the day!'"
We may be a slightly bigger side but this has made no difference in our 2 previous encounters this year.
We are already adept at the long drive home after losing in a final. In recent years we have had
2006 GF loss
2008 CC final loss
2013 CC final loss
As for Wembley you have a pretty good recent record there with zero losses this century.
In fact I think it is only fair that Wire fans get to experience the long drive home after losing at Wembley.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouWolves"Your a bigger side than we are across the park, except Shaul who is playing well. Our last 3 Challenge Cups we've had a pack or front row that could dominate with Carvell, Morley, Wood, etc. This time I dont we can do that. I hope for a good game, and i dread the feeling of travelling all that way home having lost. It was bad enough after the 2 GF's and that was only 20 mins journey home, i cant image 3-4 hours! Best of luck, but not too much if you get my drift, enjoy the day!'"
Too close to call. On paper Hull look to have the stronger pack and three quarters, but Warrington's spine 1-6-7-9-13 looks particularly good. Sandow could run amok and Gidley will be important. Shaul has been a little quiet of late and we are due a bit of magic from him. Obviously we need Sneyd and Houghton to have big games.
Hopefully the game will be decided by good attacking play rather than individual errors or refereeing controversy.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouWolves"I can see nothing but a Hull win on Saturday, you have the better of us this season, that coupled with the fact we will probably have a makeshift right side in Toby King (who in my opinion has been awful, and i say makeshift although they have played the last 5 games or so we miss an out and out winger) and Rhys Evans who was playing well at centre now on the wing.'"
It will be tight - thats for sure. It remains to be seen whether the occasion gets to Evans and King - or more to the point whether Talanoa, Yeaman and Pritchard/Minichiello target them. Your right edge defence (inclduing Sandow) will have to be really strong to repel that coming forward.
The other edge for us with Manu and Fonua will have to work harder for points; but the game for me hangs on whether you can create the space for Sandow as he is dangerous when he takes the game to the line.
I expect a really brutal opening 10-15 minutes with it all being upfront - its about who emerges with the energy after that to capitalise - and also whose bench makes the greatest impact to cover the changes that the opening encounter will require.
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| Not that it really matter but Warrington's Chief Executive Roger Draper says Hull FC supporters will outnumber Wolves' supporters by about 2-1.
Quote Ticket sales for Warrington fans are between 12,500-13,000, while Hull are expected to have nearer 25,000 at the showpiece final on Saturday.
With Hull being a bigger place and never having won at Wembley, compared to Warrington’s three recent successes, Draper admits excitement about the club’s return to Wembley, is somewhat less than 2009 – but will still be a fantastic day, worth around £250,000 for the club.'"
[urlhttp://www.warrington-worldwide.co.uk/2016/08/25/wolves-fans-set-to-be-outnumbered-at-wembley/[/url
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| Even before this year, in my eyes you guys have been our "bogey side" or its certainly felt that way. Always a tough game and generally close.
I think with your pack you will take control and then having the likes of Pritchard to come on can give you momentum. He reminds of when we had Solomona, always lifted the team when he came on and made an impact. He is that sort of player.
Once we lose Hill and Sims, we drop. In previous Wembley visits we have lifted when our rotation props came on, we will probably have George King and Bailey to come on, who are steady but not going to lift the team. Although Bailey had his best game for us last week. Our interchange lifting has to come from Westwood. Westerman has been really good for us, top player. Jack Hughes is steady but doesnt run hard for metres, Currie is the same. They lack the grunt and ruthless side of the likes of a Minichello.
I think the occasion is going to get the better of Sandow, just a gut feeling. Hoping im wrong. Also about other comments ive seen about your guys being unfocused with wembley songs and suits etc, our lot were at M&S getting kitted out for there suits lol Atkins i will say will be our main strike weapon......
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Not that it really matter but Warrington's Chief Executive Roger Draper says Hull FC supporters will outnumber Wolves' supporters by about 2-1.
[urlhttp://www.warrington-worldwide.co.uk/2016/08/25/wolves-fans-set-to-be-outnumbered-at-wembley/[/url'"
I really hope we have more than that, i know a lot have bought tickets from the RFL direct. However looking at those charts of where was sold out, your end did look more sold out than ours!
Nothing will beat the 2009 Final, having that first Wembley win for such a long time was huge.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouWolves"I really hope we have more than that, i know a lot have bought tickets from the RFL direct. However looking at those charts of where was sold out, your end did look more sold out than ours!
Nothing will beat the 2009 Final, having that first Wembley win for such a long time was huge.'"
Sounds a bit deluded this Draper bloke....
"Draper believes Warrington fans will be in fine voice, as the best fans in the league, especially if Warrington win."
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| Quote ="mk_fc"Sounds a bit deluded this Draper bloke....
"Draper believes Warrington fans will be in fine voice, as the best fans in the league, especially if Warrington win."'"
And they do have a drum lol
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| Quote ="mk_fc"Sounds a bit deluded this Draper bloke....
"Draper believes Warrington fans will be in fine voice, as the best fans in the league, especially if Warrington win."'"
Those fans must have been on holiday during our previous encounters this year.
Warrington have a bit more flair than we do. If we get overawed by the occasion and don't defend then they'll run rings around us. If we turn up and pull them into an arm wrestle then I reckon we might have enough to almost, just about maybe, come close to nearly winning. Possibly.
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| Team send off, as captured by Frank Pritchard
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| Squad confirmed, no place for Naughton, Abdull or Pryce
Shaul, Fonua, Tuimavave, Talanoa, Sneyd, Taylor, Houghton, Watts, Ellis, Minichiello, Green, Thompson, Hadley, Michaels, Manu, Bowden, Pritchard, Yeaman, Washbrook.
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| ....against
Ryan Atkins, Ryan Bailey, Daryl Clark, Ben Currie, Brad Dwyer, Rhys Evans, Kurt Gidley, Chris Hill, Jack Hughes, George King, Toby King, Kevin Penny, Stefan Ratchford, Matty Russell, Chris Sandow, Ashton Sims, Joe Westerman, Ben Westwood, Sam Wilde
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| Goes without saying, but two great squads. Perfect conditions forecast, sunny and about 23c. Could be a fast game.
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| Wembley forecast in now rain all day, it changes every hour!!!!
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| Quote ="ccs"Wembley forecast in now rain all day, it changes every hour!!!!'"
Ah, yes, they are now using the "We have absolutely no idea" icon.
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| Well hope all have a safe journey down and it's a good game for all in attendance and that obviously Warrington win
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| Quote ="C for Cuckoo"Those fans must have been on holiday during our previous encounters this year.
Warrington have a bit more flair than we do. If we get overawed by the occasion and don't defend then they'll run rings around us. If we turn up and pull them into an arm wrestle then I reckon we might have enough to almost, just about maybe, come close to nearly winning. Possibly.'"
and what was the attendance on Easter Monday at your place, was hardly a battle to get in. The Radford out brigade must have been away on holiday with our lot
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| Quote ="Bal"Ah, yes, they are now using the "We have absolutely no idea" icon.
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At least it's predicting cooler temps around the 22/23C mark with only 58% humidity and a cooling breeze, damn sight easier to play rugby than the heat wave well above 30C down here Tuesday!
Cool vests in order during warm up though I would think even so.
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| Quote ="ccs"Wembley forecast in now rain all day, it changes every hour!!!!'"
Really hope it doesnt, that 2013 final was one of the worst, most frustrating days ive ever witnessed, and it spoilt prematch too with thousands of fans taking cover under Wembley way bridge instead of milling around the ground building an atmosphere.
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| Light rain showers for saturday. BBC weather map showed little rain over London at half 6 after the news
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| I hope you all have a great day at Wembley, and come home with the cup, I will be cheering you on from sunny Cas.
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| My weather app is showing thunderstorms and heavy rain for Saturday afternoon now... :S
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| London and South East England
Forecast Summary
Outlook for Saturday to Monday
Saturday, initially dry with sunny spells, but a chance of heavy showers later and becoming more humid. Warm and humid with showers later Sunday. Fresher with sunshine and showers Monday
i do remember 'schafernacker' on bbc earlier in the week saying the low pressure on saturday is hard to predict which part of england it will hit
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| You just know it's gonna pizz it down. Fine and warm tomorrow
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