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| [url=http://www.hullfc.com/article/22929/kent-seeking-back-row-berthKent had a shoulder op at the end of last year.[/url
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Massive irony in the fact that you're simultaneously deriding promoting assistant coaches and lauding Noble's achievements at Bradford.'"
Carl,
Sent you a PM yesterday mate.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Possibly so if all of his alternatives are also injured. Be interested to know about Green, too.'"
Did someone mention Green might have been suffering a knock? I left him out as there'd been nothing 'official'.
In the squad for Friday though, so must have been minor if anything.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Massive irony in the fact that you're simultaneously deriding promoting assistant coaches and lauding Noble's achievements at Bradford.'"
Sometimes it works, in Hulls case it doesnt and a proven man is needed before another season is over (allthough ours could be by monday night)
Do people honestly beleive Gnetle is getting the best out of the players available because i feel the players are better than the league position even with injuries?
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Do people honestly beleive Gnetle is getting the best out of the players available because i feel the players are better than the league position even with injuries?'"
Daft question. Even Gentle and the players themselves concede this point.
The real question is whether Gentle is [icapable[/i of getting the best out of the players. Last season suggests he is, this season not so far. Which is why it's stupid to write him off at the moment.
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Sometimes it works, in Hulls case it doesnt and a proven man is needed before another season is over (allthough ours could be by monday night)
Do people honestly beleive Gnetle is getting the best out of the players available because i feel the players are better than the league position even with injuries?'"
The frustrating re-occurring problems which was under Agar's tenure still remain, players getting off the floor too slow, passing too slow, non existant dummy runners etc, are fixable, no matter the quality of the personnel.
Defensively, we have improved under Gentle.
For mine, Gentle isn't getting the best out of his players at the moment.I hope he can fix the basic facets of our game,
IF he did go, I'd like us to go for a proven Head Coach.
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| I think there's a lot to like about gentle and some promising signs but I'm concerned with his stance in recent interviews where he doesn't seem to know the answer to the team's problems.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I think there's a lot to like about gentle and some promising signs but I'm concerned with his stance in recent interviews where he doesn't seem to know the answer to the team's problems.'" Surely he's not going to highlight the team's problems in any great detail?
It just makes it so much easier for the opposition.
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| Quote ="weaver93"The frustrating re-occurring problems which was under Agar's tenure still remain, players getting off the floor too slow, passing too slow, non existant dummy runners etc, are fixable, no matter the quality of the personnel.
Defensively, we have improved under Gentle.
For mine, Gentle isn't getting the best out of his players at the moment.I hope he can fix the basic facets of our game,
IF he did go, I'd like us to go for a proven Head Coach.'"
Who is the proven head coach, who is out of work that you think would be suitable?
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I think there's a lot to like about gentle and some promising signs but I'm concerned with his stance in recent interviews where he doesn't seem to know the answer to the team's problems.'"
He did say the other week, that it was certain players letting the team down.
Perhaps he still thinks it is, but doesn't want to say anymore publicly
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| Quote ="Isaiah"He did say the other week, that it was certain players letting the team down.
Perhaps he still thinks it is, but doesn't want to say anymore publicly'"
He said on saturday that the team were playing conservatively and he didn't know why
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"He said on saturday that the team were playing conservatively and he didn't know why'"
Lack of confidence.
It is easy for a coach to give the team orders and call the plays, but if the team and individual players lack the confidence in what they are doing they simply will not do it. It is far easier to make the safe play and keep the ball, which ultimately will end in a turn over or a poor positional kick.
It is a play yourself out of it situation which needs wins to build the confidence.
Mental toughness pareto.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Who is the proven head coach, who is out of work that you think would be suitable?'"
Brian Smith
Daniel Anderson
Tim Sheens.
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| Quote ="Billy Batten"Lack of confidence.
It is easy for a coach to give the team orders and call the plays, but if the team and individual players lack the confidence in what they are doing they simply will not do it. It is far easier to make the safe play and keep the ball, which ultimately will end in a turn over or a poor positional kick.
It is a play yourself out of it situation which needs wins to build the confidence.
Mental toughness pareto.'"
Isnt it the Head Coach's job to instill confidence into his players?
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| could the problem be that gentle, when he was brought into the aussie set up by tim sheens he was tasked with the defence and dave furner was the offence coach just a thought as our defence has improved but we are still sadly lacking in attack
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| Quote ="weaver93"Isnt it the Head Coach's job to instill confidence into his players?'"
It is, but I could coach you, lead you, make you believe you could do something, but ultimately it is up to you.
Everything we have worked on in the off season and up to the Leeds game has revolved around the spine of our team and the new signings, most of which are not currently available for selection. Had they been, we no doubt would have been in a better position than we currently are and playing a better style of football.
We have no real strength in depth and are literally playing with last years team who lacked belief, leadership and the confidence to win games.
We can all blame PG or AP as much as we want but building a team does not happen overnight, it is a 2 / 3 year progressive project.
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| Quote ="upwiththecream"could the problem be that gentle, when he was brought into the aussie set up by tim sheens he was tasked with the defence and dave furner was the offence coach just a thought as our defence has improved but we are still sadly lacking in attack'"
I don't buy into the theory that our defence is that good. Our for and against are both about 8th best in the comp which is pretty close to our league position and around where we're likeley to finish. We're just not as good as some fans like to think we are
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| Quote ="Billy Batten"It is, but I could coach you, lead you, make you believe you could do something, but ultimately it is up to you.
Everything we have worked on in the off season and up to the Leeds game has revolved around the spine of our team and the new signings, most of which are not currently available for selection. Had they been, we no doubt would have been in a better position than we currently are and playing a better style of football.
We have no real strength in depth and are literally playing with last years team who lacked belief, leadership and the confidence to win games.
We can all blame PG or AP as much as we want but building a team does not happen overnight, it is a 2 / 3 year progressive project.'"
Last year's team finished on a high, finished 6th, won a play off game and did ok at wire with a patched up side. This year's team got hammered at widnes with only ellis and watts missing from pretty much our 1st choice 17
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Last year's team finished on a high, finished 6th, won a play off game and did ok at wire with a patched up side. This year's team got hammered at widnes with only ellis and watts missing from pretty much our 1st choice 17'"
Exactly, last years team, other teams playing with this years team.....
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| Quote ="Billy Batten"Exactly, last years team, other teams playing with this years team.....'"
What are you talking about? I've just said that this year's team played widnes, and leeds. No team can expect to be at full strength every week
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Last year's team finished on a high, finished 6th, won a play off game and did ok at wire with a patched up side. This year's team got hammered at widnes with only ellis and watts missing from pretty much our 1st choice 17'"
And Holdsworth, swap him for Seymour and I think we would have won that game.
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| Quote ="Dave K."And Holdsworth, swap him for Seymour and I think we would have won that game.'"
Good point. I forgot that seymour came in for holdsworth at widnes
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Sometimes it works, in Hulls case it doesnt and a proven man is needed before another season is over (allthough ours could be by monday night)
Do people honestly beleive Gnetle is getting the best out of the players available because i feel the players are better than the league position even with injuries?'"
It's knack all to do with the club, it's the coach in question. Noble worked for Bradford, McNamara didn't really come close.
Writing off all assistant coaches because 'it doesn't work at Hull' is nonsense.
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| Quote ="weaver93"Brian Smith
Daniel Anderson
Tim Sheens.'"
Perhaps I should have said "who is realistic and suitable"
Brian Smith is probably close to his 60's by now. Would he really want to relocate to the other side of the planet.
Tim Sheens? Why would he be interested in coming to an serial under achiever of a club?
Anderson, imo is a flat track bully. A bit like Noble. He took a champion team on the crest of a wave.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Perhaps I should have said "who is realistic and suitable"
Brian Smith is probably close to his 60's by now. Would he really want to relocate to the other side of the planet.
Tim Sheens? Why would he be interested in coming to an serial under achiever of a club?
Anderson, imo is a flat track bully. A bit like Noble. He took a champion team on the crest of a wave.'"
Plus he's the Director of the refs in Oz now so he's not exactly out of work
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