…. I guess Kelly, Connor, Westerman and then Bowden, Green and Talanoa isn't going to make any difference then?

Jake, i feel so sorry for you its heartbreaking,iam filling up as I write this post.You will be fine when kelly and connor return.

I thought washbrook played really well considering hes not a half back,and thought taylor was poor by his high standards,paea and minichello invisible.

agree about paea,taylor played ok mini looking his age, washy did well but we missed a Kelly or connor, fair play to rovers who kept going to the end, garbett was very good and drinkwater looks the part, imo a draw would have been a fair result,

Great game for the neutral. As many have said, Hull have some class acts to come back so no need to panic.

Dont have a problem going wide early, just how we execute it, so frustrating, we go back 20 metres to make 10, so slow , no one running on to the ball, or dummy runners, I can't believe season after season , training session after training session we look no better at passing the ball. 2 average teams last night , we lots of effort, cant argue with the result , and was pleased with Hulls effort, hopefully get some bodies back and get our attack looking more slick

They’ll Make a difference I agree , but it’s a couple of quality forwards that we are missing to be challenging again . Our pack can’t competee with the top teams I don’t think . We haven’t replaced watts and Ellis , replace them with similar type players and we’d look a lot better . All we’ve done is replace them with youth , but it’s quality we need .

No we won't. Squad is 6th to 8th place. We don't have enough size or mobility in the front row and our back row is a shadow of what it was 2 years ago. 2019 is a meh year for me but with most of the squad ooc it's an opportunity to make some positive changes for next yeah

Now I remember why I and many others don't bother coming on here anymore...predictable, boring and clichéd rhetoric. YAWN

He's doesn't know, it's called a prediction. Most bookies have them bottom three too.

Radford was proved right about the bench been the difference as we looked in control while Taylor and Masi were on but Garbutt and Greenwood came on and changed the game in their favour. Paea was totally anonymous with the ball and couldn't match Masi's workrate in defence who he replaced.

Thought our goal line defence was a massive plus though as we didn't look in any trouble at all barring the time Tomkins got 1 on 1 with Sneyd off the back of Garbutts carry the play before and a wonder tackle by Bureta on Keinhorst midway through the second half.

With the ball I thought we played more expansive than expected but it was too easy to defend as Rovers simply knew Sneyd and Washbrook didn't offer a running threat so they could work off them quicker than normal giving our 3/4ers hardly any room to work with and our backrowers weren't engaging their line either.

why would crooks want to catch the ball on the last play of the game when you need to score,, and you call radford ,, you pankcake thrower

Regardless of what happened at the end, the better team won. We will clearly be better with the missing players back but we are nowhere near good enough to compete with the best in SL. (Neither are Rovers)

All of the top sides will roll our pack which looks small, old and tired. We are badly missing Ellis, Watts and the 2016 versions of Minichello and Manu. Poor recruitment and retention has rendered this season transitional. Paea has been a very poor addition and last night he was awful. Minichello is finished and Thompson is a Championship player.


I don't actually think that Schofield's and Peacock's comments were too far off the mark. We look like a team that will finish bottom four and so do Rovers.

Thursday night will be a real test of where we are.

Connor will obviously make us better but Cas are a better side than Rovers and I can't see anything but another loss. Visits to Wigan and Hudds coming next and the pressure is going to pile up on Radford and Pearson.


The season could be over very quickly indeed and the "dynasty" has well and truly ended. Our squad needs to be overhauled which is a pretty depressing reality.

Only if positive players are available, and the player pool isnt massive either.

The recruitment/ retention policy will make this another “transitional” year.
Fans patience will be in short supply due to how last year ended.

Rovers aren’t that good IMO (which makes last night even more frustrating) and Cas will be a stern test.

Yep, very depressing but not at all surprising to many of us. It's only one game but our pack is just a shadow of what it was merely 2 and 3 seasons ago. We have gone a long way backwards in a very short space of time. A bit of luck in the CC to look forward to perhaps but I can't remember ever looking forward to a season less than I have this one.

Ignoring some of the cack being written on here, specifically about apparent lack of skill and team skills being poor (I’d be interested to know what some people say bench marks are as last nights games was great for the neutral, trouble is, no one on here is neutral,and some are not let nirt level enough to be objective). However, some observations,

We competed when many of our own fans thought it was a forgone conclusion of a result.

It wasn’t just the five drives and a kick which many suggested ( but let’s face it, it’s not really been like that since Agar)

Sneyd looked good and took the line on (granted he had to given he was the only real half we had) .

We actually took the few chances we had in the first half, a major criticism of other seasons. However we should have made more of the field position in the second half.

Dawson-Jones did ok for me. Looked quick. Certainly wasn’t the defensive nightmare some on here had predicted before kick off
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Our defense was good. they only scored off kicks.

MIni and Paea need to offer more going forward.

We lost at the end for not being game savvy. Perhaps the ball should have gone into touch. However, knowing they had time for just one full set of tackles, we should have e,played spoiling tactics to slow it down. Conceding a penalty would have eaten into a few vital seconds and allowed the defensive line to reset.

Hindsight!

Welcome back. I've missed your boring bile

We'll likely have 4 overseas spots available though which will help massively

There’s bound to be some quality forward who gets himself banned from the NRL who we’ll be able to pick up!

Hopefully a noteable signing announced early which can help with further recruitment. We announced Frank Pritchard in June 2015 followed by Tuimavave and Manu over the next couple of months.

Its true though isn't it.

We need two big powerful second rows a front row and centre.
At the moment apart from two or three players we have no power in the forwards and no pace.
Fans concerns around Minichello,Manu and Paea were clearly seen last night.
We should remember we were playing a poor HKR team.They will get better as their new players start to gel.
Our hopes are relying on kelly,Green,Bowden and Westerman returning but we could be 0-4 by then.
Lets see how far away we are from a top four/five side when we play Castleford next week.
With Connor back we should see a difference but we need something different off the bench.
If Washbrook goes on the bench and Radford keeps faith with Paea we need another Front row as we are sadly lacking any interchange impact.