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| Quote ="Thetalentboy"The semi final where we'd have took the lead with less than 10 minutes left but Connor decided to set grace up yes that one
Without shauls try Sneyd wouldn't of had a kick to kick and we'd of still been behind with not long left
Houghton won it with the tackle but again without Shaul we'd have been behind still'"
Quote ="Thetalentboy"73.53 minutes gone we was losing 21-18 when Connor lost us it
But dave Chris and the other Connor crew where to busy looking at Connors booty to notice the game
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| I watched the game on Ch 4 and thought that ALL the fans (FC and Saints) and CH4 were great with the tribute to JW,
Well earned and very well received aswell.
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| Quote ="bishops finger"I watched the game on Ch 4 and thought that ALL the fans (FC and Saints) and CH4 were great with the tribute to JW,
Well earned and very well received aswell.'"
Cheers, it was a very touching tribute. Well organised by the club and a fitting tribute. Good that Channel 4 showed it all.
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| Richard Silverwood ...
Quote Just watched Hull game back as missed earlier. Wow. Game is distant from what remember. Gale is a penalty in my day. Not sure on RFL instructions to Referees now. Its not the game I loved. Boring.'"
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| Quote ="Saddened!"The earlier injury was a stinger to the shoulder.
He definitely got kicked in the shin just above the sock and the injury is definitely in the same location.
After the initial impact, I'm sure it does carry up further up the leg.'"
I disagree
where you see the hand of Lomax is where the impact occurred,and his hand is hiding what would be the impact of Gales boot.
That gash on his shin is deep yet there is no blood.Funny that if its a new wound.
You get a better view if you see it live and slow the recording down
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| Quote ="bonaire"I disagree
where you see the hand of Lomax is where the impact occurred,and his hand is hiding what would be the impact of Gales boot.
That gash on his shin is deep yet there is no blood.Funny that if its a new wound.
You get a better view if you see it live and slow the recording down'"
I did just that and the initial impact is Gales heel on Lomax’s shin then goes up to his knee/calf. Grade D, 4 matches.
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| Kicks
A-B Kicks opponent – light contact
C-D Kicks opponent – makes full contact
Wonder what grade Gale will get. What constitutes light contact
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| Quote ="mwindass"Kicks
A-B Kicks opponent – light contact
C-D Kicks opponent – makes full contact
Wonder what grade Gale will get. What constitutes light contact'"
Not sure I agree but I'd be amazed if he doesn't get c-d.
RFL on a mission to stamp down on any foul play accidentally or not
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| Quote ="Dave K."Quote ="mwindass"Kicks
A-B Kicks opponent – light contact
C-D Kicks opponent – makes full contact
Wonder what grade Gale will get. What constitutes light contact'"
Not sure I agree but I'd be amazed if he doesn't get c-d.
RFL on a mission to stamp down on any foul play accidentally or not'"
I think the way the RFL and Disciplinary deal with what they seem to view as the lesser clubs and in particular both Hull clubs we will be dealt with harshly as usual.
Despite Gales previous record I can see him being given 4 games as the off field referee who made the call deemed it deliberate which I think its fair to say is a stretch to claim as such, bit like saying any mistake a ref makes is a deliberate act to influence a game which we know would be rubbish. Had it been a St's player I don't doubt they would have been banned but probably only for a 1 game possibly 2 at a push.
As for the card shown to Wynn I have to say I think that was a garbage call and watching the footage back Wellsby knew exactly what he was doing as he played the ref, feigned he'd been hurt then jumped up as if by magic. This is something that needs taking out the game before we end up like football with players diving and feigning injury in every tackle.
It will be interesting to see just how impartial and consistent the RFL and Disciplinary panel is with the clampdown and neck flex in regards to the shove on Swift which Kendall penalised St's for yet no card even though in other games players have seen yellow for less.
After watching the first 2 rounds I am concerned as to the future of the game or where the RFL are taking the game as the standard and performance from the officials has been so inconsistent its almost as if they all have different rule books. If video ref's are going to make calls that the on field ref hasn't then the game is in real danger, we might as well do away with the officials and just have ref by wire in that case. If they can not have video ref's at all games then they shouldn't have them at any.
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| Quote ="Rugby Raider"It’ll be interesting to see how the Discipinary Committee deal with Gale.
I can’t recall seeing a player going in to challenge a kicker with their foot in all my time watching the game.
That said, it wasn’t a two footed lunge and he did look like he was pulling his foot away. However, he still made contact.
It was a stupid challenge and I suspect he’ll get two matches, but it still wouldn’t surprise me if they gave him more as they have nothing to benchmark it with. Hopefully, the fact he got sent off in the first half, might be taken into account with any ban.
I hope Lomax is ok. Some are saying he milked it. However, Gale made contact with his foot and he received a cut to his shin. Anyone who’s played sport will know that that’s instantly painful. A bit like when you stub your toe, instant pain, but a minute later you’re ok to carry on.'"
Jordan Lane's charge down against KR a year or 2 back was identical, only difference was he got the ball not the leg. Everybody thought that was fantastic play.
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| Just a feeling, but I reckon they'll throw the book at him, the VR said it was deliberate.
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| Quote ="bonaire"I disagree
where you see the hand of Lomax is where the impact occurred,and his hand is hiding what would be the impact of Gales boot.
That gash on his shin is deep yet there is no blood.Funny that if its a new wound.
You get a better view if you see it live and slow the recording down'"
You can see on the picture the back studs hit just above the sock. The other studs likely catch below the knee and end up on the thigh. The blood thing isn't an issue either, flesh wounds don't always bleed quickly, especially not when it's about 3 degrees. It's not a conspiracy this, it definitely happened.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"You can see on the picture the back studs hit just above the sock. The other studs likely catch below the knee and end up on the thigh. The blood thing isn't an issue either, flesh wounds don't always bleed quickly, especially not when it's about 3 degrees. It's not a conspiracy this, it definitely happened.'"
Your certainly busy spreading the news on other forums like an old woman, how’s Konrad doing for you by the way.
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| He's got 3 matches, AND referred to the tribunal. Could be two separate charges.
2 month ban being rumoured.
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| Quote ="ccs"He's got 3 matches, AND referred to the tribunal. Could be two separate charges.
2 month ban being rumoured.'"
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| Quote ="ccs"Just a feeling, but I reckon they'll throw the book at him, the VR said it was deliberate.'"
Unfortunately I think you maybe right but I would seriously question how a VR can say it was deliberate? I think its fair to say that Gale is one of those players that doesn't go out with any intent or to deliberately injure a player. I would say it was most definitely careless and not sure I even go as far to say it was even reckless. Is you watch a lot of charge downs when a player tries to close down quickly many have a leading leg to help when they push themselves off they don't jump like a salmon. It wasn't a two footed kung fu effort and was nothing more than a genuine effort to charge the ball down that he got wrong though as its one of the clubs from Hull you can bet it will be given maximum penalty.
I hope that they also review the performance of Kendall & Moore in regards to two incidents that the on field ref didn't call but was told in his ear resulting in a yellow and red cards of which the yellow was a joke as Welsby played the officials and purposefully lifted his own standing leg which resulted in him going down. When you watch the incident back he plays he's hurt holding his neck but then suddenly jumps back up as though nothing has happened. Did Wynn lift one leg? Yes but did he lift it above horizontal and waist height? No.
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| Quote ="ccs"He's got 3 matches, AND referred to the tribunal. Could be two separate charges.
2 month ban being rumoured.'"
If that's true then the game of RL is just a joke and no longer the sport it was. I agree in player welfare but you can't officiate a physical sport with mambie pambie officials as we may as well just ask players to wear ribbons on their shorts and outlaw tackling altogether.
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| Hes been charged with a grade c and d.
What's he gunna get 8/10 weeks
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Grade C, 3 matches for lifting the player off the ground.
Grade D, "Behaves in any way contrary to the true spirit of the game (includes Dangerous Contact) -
Other contrary behaviour", tribunal.
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Grade C, 3 matches for lifting the player off the ground.
Grade D, "Behaves in any way contrary to the true spirit of the game (includes Dangerous Contact) -
Other contrary behaviour", tribunal.
staging.rugby-league.com/uploads ... y%2021.pdf
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| Laughable
The grade C is listed as 3 matches and the grade D is decided by tribunal. Its going to be 7+, I wouldn't be shocked if its something absurd like 10 in total.
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Quote ="ccs"Grade C, 3 matches for lifting the player off the ground.
Grade D, "Behaves in any way contrary to the true spirit of the game (includes Dangerous Contact) -
Other contrary behaviour", tribunal.
staging.rugby-league.com/uploads ... y%2021.pdf'"
I had it down as a reckless incident with a 2 match ban, but I did wonder if the lifting of an injured player off the ground would be looked at in a bad light and might occur a separate charge.
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Grade D, "Behaves in any way contrary to the true spirit of the game (includes Dangerous Contact) -
Other contrary behaviour", tribunal.
staging.rugby-league.com/uploads ... y%2021.pdf'"
I had it down as a reckless incident with a 2 match ban, but I did wonder if the lifting of an injured player off the ground would be looked at in a bad light and might occur a separate charge.
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| Also points out that Wynne did literally nothing wrong and was given a yellow card for no reason (which we already knew).
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| Quote ="scarrie"Laughable'"
Indeed and they've actually shown how inept the match official and VR were during the game by stating Wynn didn't lift Welsby into a dangerous position and it was Welsby himself that caused it. So Wynn and Hull were not just unfairly given a penalty against them but also had a player yellow carded for no reason at all. So should we call this a deliberate attempt affect the outcome of the game by the officials? The officials clearly got it wrong as the on field ref didn't call it at the time, it was called by the VR who ruled it such.
The RFL and so called disciplinary are a joke and so incompetent its laughable and then they wonder why the sport is dying on its backside.
Yet Hurrell according to the panels wording commits 'Dangerous Contact – A defending player makes contact with an opponent after the ball hasbeen released by an opponent in a vulnerable position which causes flexion to the head, neck or spinal column on an attacking player, which poses an unacceptable risk of injury to that player' yet only gets a Grade A and 0 match penalty notice.
So what recourse of action can we expect form the RFL for the incorrect decision to not only penalise Wynn but to also issue a yellow card? As usual nothing will be done and the RFL will just bury their heads and they wonder why a lot of fans think the sport is corrupt.
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| Quote ="Chris71"Indeed and they've actually shown how inept the match official and VR were during the game by stating Wynn didn't lift Welsby into a dangerous position and it was Welsby himself that caused it. So Wynn and Hull were not just unfairly given a penalty against them but also had a player yellow carded for no reason at all. So should we call this a deliberate attempt affect the outcome of the game by the officials? The officials clearly got it wrong as the on field ref didn't call it at the time, it was called by the VR who ruled it such.
The RFL and so called disciplinary are a joke and so incompetent its laughable and then they wonder why the sport is dying on its backside.
Yet Hurrell according to the panels wording commits 'Dangerous Contact – A defending player makes contact with an opponent after the ball hasbeen released by an opponent in a vulnerable position which causes flexion to the head, neck or spinal column on an attacking player, which poses an unacceptable risk of injury to that player' yet only gets a Grade A and 0 match penalty notice.'"
So Hurrel committed the exact same offence that both Austin and Dwyer have been sin binned and for and received a match ban in recent weeks, and he gets nothing. Absolute ing joke this sport.
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