They surely wouldn't vote to reduce the games too much.

2008 I think it was, there was a 12-team SL, with 27 rounds, so we played some teams twice, 13 home games overall. 30 regular games is too many.

There's no obvious solution. In the day or so since the Elstone conference, I've seen about 20 different proposed league structures from fans on here and on twitter. It's really difficult to get the balance right between money, competition, excitement, supporting the lower leagues etc.

My own personal view is slightly less league games, a mid-season 3 game international break, change magic weekend so it's not for league points (perhaps CC QF's), 14-team SL (26 games), 2 up, 2 down (14th and 1st down automatically, 13th place vs 2nd place playoff), higher funding to lower leagues, compulsory reserve grade, academy & womens team, top 6 playoffs. I appreciate almost everyone will view it differently.

For me personally the Middle Eights rubbish has to go, it just too much TV driven and at present 6 teams are finding it hard to recruit for next season because of the jeopardy in it, all that can't be good for developing the game and its players long term. One league of twelves teams with the possibility of 33% going down is ludicrous if you want to grow the game. What is interesting to see is the way that all the Super League clubs are rallying round to support the new Chief Executive and the changes with this afternoon even Wakey and Huddersfield (Plus Mr Hudgell) affirming their support. c.newsnow.co.uk/A/942081270?-4338:2393

For me personally the Middle Eights rubbish has to go, it just too much TV driven and at present 6 teams are finding it hard to recruit for next season because of the jeopardy in it, all that can't be good for developing the game and its players long term. One league of twelves teams with the possibility of 33% going down is ludicrous if you want to grow the game. What is interesting to see is the way that all the Super League clubs are rallying round to support the new Chief Executive and the changes with this afternoon even Wakey and Huddersfield (Plus Mr Hudgell) affirming their support. c.newsnow.co.uk/A/942081270?-4338:2393

Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"For me personally the Middle Eights rubbish has to go, it just too much TV driven and at present 6 teams are finding it hard to recruit for next season because of the jeopardy in it, all that can't be good for developing the game and its players long term. One league of twelves teams with the possibility of 33% going down is ludicrous if you want to grow the game. What is interesting to see is the way that all the Super League clubs are rallying round to support the new Chief Executive and the changes with this afternoon even Wakey and Huddersfield (Plus Mr Hudgell) affirming their support. c.newsnow.co.uk/A/942081270?-4338:2393'" ^^^THIS^^^ For me the RFL have to make massive changes to the way they operate and run the game. Woods and Co just became self serving and really on the grand scale of things what in the last 10 years have the RFL done that we can look back at and say they've done a good job for the sport?

Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"For me personally the Middle Eights rubbish has to go, it just too much TV driven and at present 6 teams are finding it hard to recruit for next season because of the jeopardy in it, all that can't be good for developing the game and its players long term. One league of twelves teams with the possibility of 33% going down is ludicrous if you want to grow the game. What is interesting to see is the way that all the Super League clubs are rallying round to support the new Chief Executive and the changes with this afternoon even Wakey and Huddersfield (Plus Mr Hudgell) affirming their support. c.newsnow.co.uk/A/942081270?-4338:2393'" ^^^THIS^^^ For me the RFL have to make massive changes to the way they operate and run the game. Woods and Co just became self serving and really on the grand scale of things what in the last 10 years have the RFL done that we can look back at and say they've done a good job for the sport?

Barwick and his ilk are self serving blazers, along with Whino Hetherington have held the game back.

Fighting talk about Hetherington here from the usual passive St's Chairman which I think sees the Leeds Chairman marginalised and gives him a bit of his own medicine. It appears that the 11 other Super League Clubs are rock solid on this and With that last paragraph, I think it makes it very clear that change will definitely come next season. He infers I think, rightly or wrongly, that although the Championship Clubs will continue to get the same cut of the Sky money, they should consider the fact that it is the Super League Clubs that bring it in in the first place. As I say fighting talk. c.newsnow.co.uk/A/942279427?-4338:2393

Fighting talk about Hetherington here from the usual passive St's Chairman which I think sees the Leeds Chairman marginalised and gives him a bit of his own medicine. It appears that the 11 other Super League Clubs are rock solid on this and With that last paragraph, I think it makes it very clear that change will definitely come next season. He infers I think, rightly or wrongly, that although the Championship Clubs will continue to get the same cut of the Sky money, they should consider the fact that it is the Super League Clubs that bring it in in the first place. As I say fighting talk. c.newsnow.co.uk/A/942279427?-4338:2393

What an awful result for Hull KR tonight. Hopefully they get the win this weekend though with Sheens talking Top 8 last week.

rovers still have salford and widnes to play at home. I expect them to finish 10th. salford only won tonight because widnes are so bad. Can't see either of them winning another game until the 8's

Sheens still talking Rovers avoiding the Middle 8s. Hard to disagree with a "Top Line Coach".

Former top line coach

What do you mean ? Shiny Sheens is a magician
“Look into my eyes”
He’s convinced Fudge-all that Rovers only lose matches but far more importantly they never get beat !!! He’s a miracle worker
“Look into my eyes , look into my eyes - you will ignore the Losses” - ala Little Britain

WHAT have the RFL ever done for us ?
Apart from the World Cup
What have they ever.........

Stupidly enough this result does more harm to us finishing 10th than it does 8th as we’d still have to catch Huddersfield and what do you expect Sheens to say plus we still have to play Salford Huddersfield and Widnes so you never know

We have Widnes away but Huddersfield and Salford at home

My bad. hudds have had an upturn in form but not sure they're that great so I reckon you'll be targeting 6 points from those games. salford and widnes are abysmal

Hudds beat Catalans. Didn't see that coming.

I predicted it when hubby was putting his tips in on Wednesday. Huddersfield would've wanted revenge after the CC game and they'll have gained confidence beating Leeds last week. Think we'll have it tough when we visit early July.

Giants rumoured to be signing Jackson Hastings from Manly.
Going to be interesting battle between them and Catalan for eighth I reckon.

Cas team to play Rovers is very beatable, hopefully KR can do us a favour today.

You said that last time and they were 22-0 up after 15 minutes

Tomkins has said you'll win all your remaining games and make the 8. Cheer up.

absolutely no chance of that happening,you should have done yourselves a favour by beating wigan who are average at best

Cas have nearly as many out as us. Have a word.

Well he never actually said that did he he actually said if we wanted to make the top 8 we couldn’t afford to lose another game slightly different to your version

and of course kr at full strength again ,no ability to see it both ways have you, just full of wind pee as usual

Warrington practically home and hosed against Wakey after 23 minutes (20-0)