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| Quote ="Bombers Double Chin"If Pearson knew the clubs finances were in a right mess, and he was spending the top limit of the salary cap, then why did he sign Josh Reynolds of a big fat salary?
He is spending beyond his means, and that his own fault.'"
Maybe you should have advised him 9 months ago that the best he could expect was 5000 passholders, no more than 5 unrestricted home games, and the SMC bending over backwards to make life as difficult as possible.
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Quote ="UllFC"Its also curious what they are doing with the results of these test events. In Liverpool the other month a rave was held with testing on the way in and studies later showed no spike in infections occurred, but since that successful event, im not aware of any similar events going ahead.'"
Don’t know where you get your figures from, re “no spike in infections”, as government has not released the figures. And Liverpool councils figures show an increase in cases. If there had not been a huge spike in cases don’t you think the government would shout it from the roof tops.
https://liverpool.gov.uk/media/1360836/ ... ternal.pdf
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Quote ="UllFC"Its also curious what they are doing with the results of these test events. In Liverpool the other month a rave was held with testing on the way in and studies later showed no spike in infections occurred, but since that successful event, im not aware of any similar events going ahead.'"
Don’t know where you get your figures from, re “no spike in infections”, as government has not released the figures. And Liverpool councils figures show an increase in cases. If there had not been a huge spike in cases don’t you think the government would shout it from the roof tops.
https://liverpool.gov.uk/media/1360836/ ... ternal.pdf
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Quote ="Plum Bob"Don’t know where you get your figures from, re “no spike in infections”, as government has not released the figures. And Liverpool councils figures show an increase in cases. If there had not been a huge spike in cases don’t you think the government would shout it from the roof tops.
https://liverpool.gov.uk/media/1360836/ ... ternal.pdf'"
The whole country has seen a spike in infections. I was referring to the results of this specific test event: [urlhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-57249289[/url
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Quote ="Plum Bob"Don’t know where you get your figures from, re “no spike in infections”, as government has not released the figures. And Liverpool councils figures show an increase in cases. If there had not been a huge spike in cases don’t you think the government would shout it from the roof tops.
https://liverpool.gov.uk/media/1360836/ ... ternal.pdf'"
The whole country has seen a spike in infections. I was referring to the results of this specific test event: [urlhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-57249289[/url
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| Quote ="Bombers Double Chin"If Pearson knew the clubs finances were in a right mess, and he was spending the top limit of the salary cap, then why did he sign Josh Reynolds of a big fat salary?
He is spending beyond his means, and that his own fault.'"
Lots of things are easy with the benefit of hindsight. The clubs and most supporters believed that a short delay to the season start was enough to start the season in front of crowds.
Pass sales were always likely to be down, but by how many was an unknown. While I have renewed, I understand others not renewing as so far we have been able to attend 1 game and tommorow's game is a pretty much a B-list lineup due to the farce around the England game. It hasn't been value for money so far. The size of the KCOM also means people don't fear 'losing their seat' by not renewing, one nearby will still be there next season.
Merchandise sales will also be well down as you can do the best marketing in the world but some items people only buy to wear at games, such as scarves when its cold, on a match day hundreds enter the shop.
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| And now. 140,000 to be allowed into Silverstone the day after the CC final!!
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| Quote ="Large Paws"And now. 140,000 to be allowed into Silverstone the day after the CC final!!'"
Union quite rightly kicking off that only 10k allowed at Twickenham for the Premiership Final. Its a complete lottery.
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| Winning the next 4/5 games could put us in a really strong position in the league and with the remaining home fixtures we could get some decent crowds.
Rovers
Saints
Leeds
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Wigan
Could see a real income boost if we are in form and in the play offs
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| You are facing a Bradford like crisis and the only way out is an immediate and substantial downsizing.
Right now you are spending about 750k more per season on players than Rovers which is similar to your annual loss.
For your extra £750k you have 6 wins and 5th place in Super League compared to Rovers 6 wins and 6th place.. Who is getting value for money?
The 'glory or bust' experiment has failed.
Hull Fc need to act now or administration awaits.
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| Quote ="His Bobness"You are facing a Bradford like crisis and the only way out is an immediate and substantial downsizing.
Right now you are spending about 750k more per season on players than Rovers which is similar to your annual loss.
For your extra £750k you have 6 wins and 5th place in Super League compared to Rovers 6 wins and 6th place.. Who is getting value for money?
The 'glory or bust' experiment has failed.
Hull Fc need to act now or administration awaits.'"
If this is as accurate as all your other predictions we will be fine.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"If this is as accurate as all your other predictions we will be fine.'"
If he only knew
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"If this is as accurate as all your other predictions we will be fine.'"
This isn't my truth it's Adam Pearson's truth . Wake up and smell the coffee.
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| Quote ="His Bobness"This isn't my truth it's Adam Pearson's truth . Wake up and smell the coffee.'"
I do like a nice cup of coffee. Got a really good coffee machine at Christmas.
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| both clubs have spent under the cap this year
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| Josh Jones, Ellis and Ratu all not replaced I know for a fact josh Jones was on 130k a year tell me how much cap those 3 alone earnt?
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| Quote ="His Bobness"This isn't my truth it's Adam Pearson's truth . Wake up and smell the coffee.'"
C’mon Mrs. B lay into him, you smell the coffee more than anyone.
Being a Dobbins fan, you know more than anyone else about administration, 3 times the last count.
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The one thing he does not want is enlightenment. He has his own view and that is the correct one.
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The one thing he does not want is enlightenment. He has his own view and that is the correct one.
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| Quote ="His Bobness"You are facing a Bradford like crisis and the only way out is an immediate and substantial downsizing.
Right now you are spending about 750k more per season on players than Rovers which is similar to your annual loss.
For your extra £750k you have 6 wins and 5th place in Super League compared to Rovers 6 wins and 6th place.. Who is getting value for money?
The 'glory or bust' experiment has failed.
Hull Fc need to act now or administration awaits.'"
Fair Point!
In the past decade:
- Rovers have been to Wembley once and lost narrowly by the odd fifty points in fifty
- Been in the Championship
- Been in the Play Offs 2/10
- Received a ‘gift’ of a £1m from the Allam’s
- Lost their Owner
- Held a Fun Day
Meanwhile
- Hull have been to Wembley three times, won twice (at a place some assured us that we’d never win)
- Only played in the Super League
- Been in the Play Offs 6/10 times
So who is getting value for money?
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| Shows that the "new stadium plans" just a few months ago were pie in the sky
Were not a big club in the grand scheme of things
Were no bigger than a average league 1 football team
The sport has under sold its self for years and has finally caught up
Super league will be part time in 3 years thanks to clubs and RFL doing nothing to promote it
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| Quote ="Large Paws"And now. 140,000 to be allowed into Silverstone the day after the CC final!!'"
None of the rules during lockdown has made sense
10 people could only go to a funeral whilst millions coming through airports every day during lockdown
Parents can't watch their kids at sports day yet thousands can sit in the same stand at the euros
If people/businesses don't get together against this farce it will never end as they keep moving the goalposts even when the death rate is still below 50 every day!
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| Quote ="Thetalentboy"Shows that the "new stadium plans" just a few months ago were pie in the sky
Were not a big club in the grand scheme of things
Were no bigger than a average league 1 football team
The sport has under sold its self for years and has finally caught up
Super league will be part time in 3 years thanks to clubs and RFL doing nothing to promote it'"
Sadly I tend to agree.
I also wonder if an RL team would be lured by Union at some point. For example Saints have a great brand, own their ground and Union has minimal presence in the North West. There would be uproar of course but if it's a future of top class Union or part time in a dwindling RL league then it may get tempting...
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| Quote ="Rugby Raider"Fair Point!
In the past decade:
- Rovers have been to Wembley once and lost narrowly by the odd fifty points in fifty
- Been in the Championship
- Been in the Play Offs 2/10
- Received a ‘gift’ of a £1m from the Allam’s
- Lost their Owner
- Held a Fun Day
Meanwhile
- Hull have been to Wembley three times, won twice (at a place some assured us that we’d never win)
- Only played in the Super League
- Been in the Play Offs 6/10 times
So who is getting value for money?'"
It’s the future that is important now, not the past.
Pearson seems to be becoming more realistic in his predictions for FC’s future even if some fans are not.
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| Quote ="Keiththered"It’s the future that is important now, not the past.
Pearson seems to be becoming more realistic in his predictions for FC’s future even if some fans are not.'"
On the field we are in the best shape we have been in for a few years, and I'm sure Hodgson will make further tweaks next winter. The big question is the finances and stadium situaiton.
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| I hope Hull FC and all clubs pull through this difficult period.
It’s a tricky balance flagging these sorts of concerns. The honesty is admirable and maybe necessary, but you don’t want to undermine confidence in your organisation. Pearson seems to have walked the line pretty well, in fairness, although from my perspective it does bring to mind Neil Hudgell’s announcement relating to covering Rovers losses in 2012.
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| Quote ="Keiththered"It’s the future that is important now, not the past.
Pearson seems to be becoming more realistic in his predictions for FC’s future even if some fans are not.'"
However, someone mentioned value for money, based purely on this week’s League Table.
I fully expect Hull to now finish in the Top 4 this season and compete for a place in the Grand Final.
Rovers have had some decent results in the past few weeks, however with outstanding fixtures across the league, I’d expect them to most likely to finish between 6th-9th.
Obviously, the season will play out how it does and it is down to each fan to determine if they are content with where their team finishes and whether that justifies value for money.
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| Quote ="Rugby Raider"However, someone mentioned value for money, based purely on this week’s League Table.
I fully expect Hull to now finish in the Top 4 this season and compete for a place in the Grand Final.
Rovers have had some decent results in the past few weeks, however with outstanding fixtures across the league, I’d expect them to most likely to finish between 6th-9th.
Obviously, the season will play out how it does and it is down to each fan to determine if they are content with where their team finishes and whether that justifies value for money.'"
Rovers are above us now aren't they?
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