You do not have a ground unfortunately

This is a forum so that we can discuss things, it's nothing personal. You put forward an idea and I thought it was one that simply wouldn't work, but instead of the usual forum style reply of saying 'that was a @@@@ idea, it'll never work' I explained why it wasn't a good idea from my POV, posed questions that would need to be answered and did so in what I thought was a reasonable manner.

There's nothing wrong with posting ideas or thoughts that simply don't/can't work or that everyone else disagrees with, there's usually something to take because it can make others think of other things from that, all part of an open forum.

[url=https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hull-city-kcom-stadium-rules-4212807Football plans for stadium access[/url

I suspect corporate boxes may open soon along similar lines, I can't see seated spectators in the general areas of the KC this calendar year, for any sport. BUT, having said that, Pubs, Cinemas etc. are supposedly opening in late July/August, it is the in/gress that stadia will fall down with,

If the RFL do decide to utilise existing Rugby grounds for example KC and Wigan then I would expect that that Hull would play at Wigan and Wigan at Hull so there is no advantage to the home team, but we all expect the rfl to do something different. I’m in favour of neutral venues so that no team gains an advantage and we do like the keepmoat. We can only hope, and wait to see

I have heard they will be using only two venues for all games

Five Super League clubs have applied to host games when the season restarts - Leeds, St Helens, Warrington, Huddersfield and Salford.

Im assuming the rfl will cover travelling costs! Did read Taylor was against playing at neutral grounds past Leeds

His reasoning was that most other teams (other than KR) are only an hour from their home grounds to other grounds, which is a half decent reason BUT not really a huge issue as it only affects 2 out of the UK based clubs, St Helens is the farthest away, but that is only 120 miles. It depends on the format, are we playing multiple fixtures at one venue over a few days, or multiple fixtures at different venues in the same week etc.?

SL is in 3 distinct 'clumps' in the UK, the Lancashire set of Saints,Warrington, Wigan and Salford, The Yorkshire set of Huddersfield, Leeds, Castleford, Wakefield, then us and KR in Hull, we can't play all our games in Leeds, that is for sure.

What we, and the Council should be is asking why FC or KR haven't put their hat in the ring (if they haven't), especially KR as they have lost revenue from concerts etc.

Doesnt sound like they have put the Hull clubs forward.
If we are going to have only one Yorkshire venue then why cant Doncaster be included?

It reads to me that only certain venue's put themselves forward, to the RFL or SL picking and choosing?

I'd imagine Mr Allam would have priced himself out of the market.

Indeed, and I suspect it will be Leeds, Huddersfield, Salford and Saints that get the nod, depends on the format.

catalans pushing for home games now....certainly puts a unfair balance on the format if they get them.....SL need to replace the word 'neutral' because it definitely wont be if this happens

Might all be academic by the time we get there? https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status ... 49927?s=19

Might all be academic by the time we get there? https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status ... 49927?s=19

When we finally get back underway, surely the rfl will have introduced the set restart rule, the nrl have implemented

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 6755384674 So it's all about making money!

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 6755384674 So it's all about making money!

Yes, it's business, if we owned our ground we would do the same.

so you dont think this is all bull and sky are behind it to cover their own costs?

dont see premiership/championship football teams being made to do the same!

what are they being made to do?

there will be no fans so of course it will be 'neutral', what advantage do you expect for the 'home' teams in most games?
Yes travelling to France is a little bit more than travelling than for UK based games but it's not that much of a hardship is it, done properly this doesn't have any effect on match preparation does it? Not all teams are clearly going to play at their home ground , in fact you could potentially have all teams not playing at their home venue and always having 'away' teams.

Of course there should be balance, personally I think all matches should be played at their original venues unless there is a significant cost reduction across the board that can be fed back to those teams travelling the furthest, but I don't see that happening. So what is the reasoning behind matches played at a smaller number of venues instead of simply playing the games at the correct venue per the fixture list?

Aside from the non science based lunacy of playing matches without fans, games should have started ages ago given the risk of death FROM supposed C.19 as actual cause of death for under 40s (using NHS stats) is THREE times less than just the road casualty deaths in the 20-39 age groups (DfT figures for 201icon_cool.gif

'science based lunacy'? are you one of those that think Covid-19 hassuddenly got bored and packed up and gone home?

Aside from the fact that amazingly some over 40s go to rugby league games deaths from RTAs are not infectious unlike Covid-19.

you do have to wonder about the education system when someone uses the word 'supposed' in relation to a virus that has become endemic, has killed 540K, or at least paid a part in their deaths, a further 6.5M have recovered from it.

For me I don't see what the reasoning or justification is for neutral venues unless there are huge savings to be made from this. If clubs still have to pay rent/upkeep etc on their current grounds surely playing at a neutral ground isn't going to generate significant savings for clubs. I can only see it being an advantage and cost saving for SKY in terms of televising the matches, has that been part of the agreement with SKY regarding financial package etc.
For clubs whose grounds are chosen to be the 'Neutral' venue's, I feel they should not have any of their own games played at their home grounds. This is the only way you can fully level the playing field and call it neutral and remove any advantage.

4 venues from Salford/Saints/Warrington and Leeds/Wakefield/HKR using 2 from each group would have been the best option as the 4 venues. Huddersfield,Wigan if no football was being played would have been an option but its an added risk both covid wise and in terms of injury than can be caused due to heavy use of the playing surface.
That way every club faces the same circumstances and challenges of travelling and playing at 'neutral' ground.