I’ve been branded a happy clapper and club apologist for positive posting but have tried to point out that I’m a realist but Friday was a game too far. 11 consequitive losses last season apart, our performances this season have been poor. Rovers, grasped defeat from the jaws of victory. Cas outplayed. Wigan and Leeds are poor but will come good, 2 wins. Wakey piled the points on again. London, almost a repeat of Rovers. Now this, Warrington have given us 2 record defeats and the nature of Friday’s game is totally unacceptable. The buck has to stop with the coaching team, they say the lads have trained the house down every week but then come up with lame excuses when we perform crap. Radford must have had an input into retention and recruitment, if not, he’s in an untenable situation and should make that clear. Blaming rental agreements etc. doesn’t wash anymore we’ve been at KC for long enough for that to be an acceptable loss and accounted for, it hasn’t stopped success in the past? I’ll still get my passes next season come what may but a change is required soon because relegation dogfights, whilst being exciting, if you stay up, if the unthinkable happens you lose support. I wouldn’t wish that on anyone, apart from The Darkside Daves.

How many coaches have we had that say how well training has gone, but the players just don't seem to give a toss?

I hope AP wins the lottery soon and throws 20m at the team if he does.

Post of the Month (if not of the last 12 months).

No, but at least we might feel better.

You are right though, it does get boring when every post people make has to link back to Radford. After a period of being somewhat on the fence I have both feet firmly in the Radford out camp now. I could go into all the reasons for that but I can't be bothered. If he stays, we will have good days, we will have bad days, but ultimately I don't think we can make a genuine GF push with him in charge, and that has to be our goal, however much Mrs. B might bang on about finances.

But it will happen when it happens, and then we will thank him and move on. I don't want to read post after post about all his failings.

Why is it?

Do you think stamping your feet and spitting your dummy out will actually change anything?? Or the classic "that it!!, I am not going any more" will actually do any benefit to the situation?

We knew before the season started that recruitment had been poor, so none of what's happening should be a surprize.

It was a bit of a surprise on Friday night, marmalised.

Not sure it was to be honest. Its the first time this season we have come up against a genuinely fancied team and our form and discipline has been scratchy to say the least. Someone commented on here before the game that wire could tear us a new one. they did and a bit more too.

It was either Wire or St's who were going to deliver a big beating.

last Friday was particulary bad,but to be honest,hull are never really convincing at home.away teams generally come here pumped up.hull never seem to be.even in a good year like 2017,we had 2 50 plus beatings against Salford[who looked like title contenders on the day ,but weren't and leeds.even bottom club leigh convincingly beat us at home.

Sums it up for me very well and how I feel.

Whilst Radford and Last have done well in what the club have achieved yet again we fail to build on the success and instead go backwards at quite significantly as opposed to rivals moving forward.

The excuses have gone on for long enough, yes Warrington are a class act with a top coach but its the fact we have been totally outplayed, out fought, out enthused and pretty much failed to turn up that was the biggest issue I had on Friday.
Dress it up however you like we have had a full pre season to improve on last seasons poor showing irrelevant of injuries and we simply haven't. We haven't put in a sustained quality performance yet, other than a 20 minute period against Leeds.
The recruitment has been poor and we have far too many players that are mediocre and past it to be competing with the likes of Warrington and St's however we should at least be able to put up a fight.

The excuses on injuries, SMC costs etc just don't wash, as every team has injuries and Radford & Pearson have stated we went with numbers instead of quailty so we are better placed to cover the injuries!!! The SMC costs are nothing new and it not like we are new tenants.
Year on year we smash the shirt sales targets and have been increasing the memberships so off the field things seem ok but on the field we are poor and don't seem to have learnt the lessons that continually kill us each season.

We don't have a good damn giving right to win games but we shouldn't be losing in the manner we are.

For me Radfords had time enough to build on the success of 2016 & 2017 but we have stagnated and gone backwards and it was imperative after the way last season finished we bounced back this season and hit the ground running but we haven't and in all honesty look miles away from doing so.

Armavinit & Chris 71, How can anyone disagree with these two posts, you’ve both eloquently nailed the situation we are in, we all hope it will improve, though the signs are not good. What can we do as supporters, we are accused of following blindly, which is probably true, but what else can we do, apart from the obvious which would ultimately trigger an even worse scenario.

So basically the rule is if we're turd, we're not allowed to complain about it because it wont change anything? What a bunch of bend over merchants some of you are!

Bet you was all good little girls at school too.

Pathetic bunch - no wonder FC are generally bab when weve got a bunch of supporters who basically arnt bothered for success.

I was a prefect and a milk monitor.
“bend over merchants” is this like the leap frog on the pommel horse.

Those posts sum up my feelings too but apparently fans who complain about our plight, don't turn up, hold hands and sing come by ya at games are termed as cancerous apparently which is pathetic.
No one is asking for a boycott, far from but if you can't vent your upset and anger on an Internet forum without being called what's the world coming too.
To be fair Salford will be a close game both inconsistent teams but mindset will win this one. Hope we are ready to atone for last Friday.

So basically if some support there team when there are going through a bad spell, They are called pathetic bend over merchants? Nice

Have to disagree about Salford.
They are a team that stretch the opposition and have some decent forwards.
I think they will win comfortably and will be the last straw for Pearson

If it was a spell then that'd be fine but it isn't is it.
Recruitment, retention, tactics and defence are shocking and have been for some time. Think that's why some people are now dispairing.

I think it comes down to mental state. I accept your point regarding Salford but if the players want it it's there for the taking.
If there's nothing wrong behind the scenes we should see a response. Failing that I hope you're right about Pearson.

It is just that an Internet forum, feeling can run high, and sometimes the pen is mightier than the sword. Difficult game on Sunday, they’ve lost a few as well.

Regarding atoning for Friday, after Wakey& Warry plugged us last season, we’ve had our chance this season, to have payback, we played like feather dusters in both games. I can see an average Salford side beating an average Hull side at the weekend, and the pressure to mount further. Regardless the lads getting our tickets tomorrow. Hopefully I’m happy to be wrong again.

Well I hope you enjoy your visit to Salford.

Going by our form on Friday, I find it hard to see were our next win will come from in the next 12 games.
Could be another run of 13 games without a win.

Not unless we seriously improve, you may well be right.

Thats the most frustrating thing though - i believe with the right coaching this team is top six material - with a couple of top quality forwards added i believe we can challenge again.

We'll get nothing but a loss out of this one. salford play quick and move the ball wide well. just the kind of play we struggle against. A dd in out paper think defence and we won't win

My thoughts exactly. Any team that shifts the ball along the line, like they did against Catalan, will stuff us, plus Josh Jones might want to impress? Remember Connor’s last game against us for Hudds.

Maybe if we haven't got 7 backs injured like last week we'll do a bit better?