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| Also disappointing that one of our big rivals for a top 4 spot and a grand final place is going to be getting strengthened while we are becoming weaker (in my opinion).
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| Good on the club, if he's causing problems then they're right to root him out before others follow his example. Brave stand, I trust Adam, Radders and Gaz's judgement on this one. Time to move on and let him self destruct if that's what he wants. He's a marked man with the officials and I can't see that changing unless he signs for Leeds or Wigan.
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| Quote ="Hasbag"Also disappointing that one of our big rivals for a top 4 spot and a grand final place is going to be getting strengthened while we are becoming weaker (in my opinion).'"
No question about it. We need a replacement but in terms of ability I can't see how he will be replaced by a Federation player.
I wonder if we have cap issues.
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| Providing he HDM is accurate on this, I would be hoping to see some sort of mid season signing of our own to utilise his cap space
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| Matthew Shaw
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Also worth pointing out on the Liam Watts deal that Castleford have put together a big, big offer to get it over the line. A very big salary and a hefty transfer fee too.
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| Was sat not too far away from Adam Pearson at the Warrington game,when Watts was sent off his face spoke a thousand words..surprised at the speed of this though.
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| It probably won’t be a popular opinion, but I think it’s the right decision from the club (if true).
Ultimately we have a tiny cap to try and squeeze maximum value from, and Watts’ qualities don’t override the send offs, suspensions & penalties. It also allows the club to potentially reinvest his salary and/or fee in a new addition, or retentions/upgrades.
On his day he’s a fantastic prop, no doubt about it, and I’m sad to see him go, but it’s also a position we seem to have ample cover in at the moment.
A couple of years ago we let Westerman & Lineham go for their unprofessionalism, we don’t tolerate unprofessional behaviour & allow it to creep in & grow either on or off the pitch. Fair play, we have standards to uphold.
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| Its a meet the directors event tonight for Cas supporters club with the usual question and answer session. No doubt the subject will be mentioned and it will swell the numbers a bit.
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| So the truth is, he’s never changed since leaving Rovers and Hull have persevered with him and got more playing years out of him as a result. He’s a talent, no doubt, but also an idiot, but then he’s an idiot who’ll be on a fantastic wage for a 27 year old...
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| Gutted about Watts but the club have got more decisions right than wrong lately. Look at the Lineham/Westerman deals. Got to trust AP, Radders and Gaz.
Wouldn’t be surprised if we came back with a prop from Salford, maybe one of Koppy, Mossop or young Griff?
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| Gutted, obviously don't know the in and outs, but feel this is a big mistake.
Makes us weaker on the field.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Makes us weaker on the field.'"
May be so, but stonger as a club, and that is what we have worked hard for in the last few years.
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| Quote ="mwindass"Gutted about Watts but the club have got more decisions right than wrong lately. Look at the Lineham/Westerman deals. Got to trust AP, Radders and Gaz.
Wouldn’t be surprised if we came back with a prop from Salford, maybe one of Koppy, Mossop or young Griff?'"
It seems like a happy coincidence that this shock announcement coincides with Salford throwing a Spring Sale.
Lee Mossop would be my preference but his injury record is poor.
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| Quote ="mwindass"Gutted about Watts but the club have got more decisions right than wrong lately. Look at the Lineham/Westerman deals. Got to trust AP, Radders and Gaz.
Wouldn’t be surprised if we came back with a prop from Salford, maybe one of Koppy, Mossop or young Griff?'"
Don't see any of those as being better than we already have and certainly not as good as Watts. I think we need a 'Fafita style' prop but those are few and far between
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| Quote ="Dave K."Gutted, obviously don't know the in and outs, but feel this is a big mistake.
Makes us weaker on the field.'"
When he's on it.
2017 saw him cited 17 times (3 red cards), charged 4 times, 6 games missed via suspension and despite these missed games he gave away 24 penalties (the most of any Hull player). 3 games missed so far via suspension in 2018.
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| Well I would be disappointed if the club haven’t got a marquee type signing lined up to replace him as I think it’s a huge mistake letting him go . Wonder if Sam Burgess fancy’s a Reunion with his old mate radders , he said about a super league return . If only !!!
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| Quote ="DGM"When he's on it.
2017 saw him cited 17 times (3 red cards), charged 4 times, 6 games missed via suspension and despite these missed games he gave away 24 penalties (the most of any Hull player). 3 games missed so far via suspension in 2018.'"
I know its for different reasons but I bet he's still missed less games than Houghton, Mini and a few others
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| You cant replace talent like that but it makes our salary cap situation for next year look better. Pay raises for OOC players plus room to spare to replace any overseas players we might be losing.
Looking for silver linings here.
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| Quote ="C for Cuckoo"You cant replace talent like that but it makes our salary cap situation for next year look better. Pay raises for OOC players plus room to spare to replace any overseas players we might be losing.
Looking for silver linings here.'"
Have you ever thought about becoming a politician
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| Quote ="C for Cuckoo"Looking for silver linings here.'"
Abdull can now be our main/starting 13. (I'm not sure how many games Watts actually lined up as loose forward but I feel like it may have been a few). We looked a better team with him in it last Thursday against Leeds.
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| Quote ="Hasbag"Abdull can now be our main/starting 13. (I'm not sure how many games Watts actually lined up as loose forward but I feel like it may have been a few). We looked a better team with him in it last Thursday against Leeds.'"
Bowden goes to starting prop. Abdull at LF and Paea on the bench with Green. Still about the best pack in the league.
We will step into the future better and stronger and we will go forwards, not backwards, and build a team that wins many games and not just a few. (I would love to be a politician. )
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| You can only back the club but IMO he's our best prop and the move makes us significantly weaker. Unless there's been some serious off field issues I don't personally believe his disciplinary record is enough to get rid of him for and unless we have a replacement we'll be losing ground on all of our top 4 rivals.
Reading the mail, we had agreed a fee with toronto before cas came in and the club have instigated it, not watts.
Really disappointing news
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| Quote ="mwindass"Gutted about Watts but the club have got more decisions right than wrong lately. Look at the Lineham/Westerman deals. Got to trust AP, Radders and Gaz.
Wouldn’t be surprised if we came back with a prop from Salford, maybe one of =#FF0000Koppy, Mossop or young Griff?'"
We played Salford at the weekend and he was left out of the team. So could be something in it. good forward as well
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| if true very poor decision for me theres a real problem in the league to find top quality forwards Liam showed in Aussy he is one of the best although I think our young guns are brilliant there not on Liams level yet this is what happened before we undid and let go a great team it looks like that could happen again Kelly Watts Carlos whos next ? disappointed is an under statement
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"You can only back the club but IMO he's our best prop and the move makes us significantly weaker. Unless there's been some serious off field issues I don't personally believe his disciplinary record is enough to get rid of him for and unless we have a replacement we'll be losing ground on all of our top 4 rivals.
Reading the mail, we had agreed a fee with toronto before cas came in and the club have instigated it, not watts.
Really disappointing news'"
He wanted 2 move to a big club,a huge loss imo.
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