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| just reported on sportstalk vote went for increase and Hull FC voted for it !
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| We probably need an increased cap to pay for Kelly next year
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"We probably need an increased cap to pay for Kelly next year'"
It'll be money well spent if that's the case.
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| Quote ="PCollinson1990"Are any RL clubs making money?'"
i don't think many sports clubs make serious money (perhaps certain owners might though)
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| warrington made about £1m profit last year
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| Quote ="PCollinson1990"Who was our marquee player, please not Pritchard, thought he had salary part paid by his former club?'"
Pritchards full salary will have been on our cap up to the marquee limit. Where the cash comes from to pay it is irrelevant this was simply a cash flow solution rather than a cap issue.
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| [url=http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/hull-fc-owner-adam-pearson-says-club-reluctantly-voted-for-salary-cap-rise/story-30253216-detail/story.htmlPearson's take on it[/url
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"[url=http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/hull-fc-owner-adam-pearson-says-club-reluctantly-voted-for-salary-cap-rise/story-30253216-detail/story.htmlPearson's take on it[/url'"
I like the sound of being able to keep hold of the "current squad". Hopefully that means there is room for Kelly. Be interesting to see what Ellis does, my thoughts are we have to keep him at the club, one way or another.
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| Quote ="Faithful One"I like the sound of being able to keep hold of the "current squad". Hopefully that means there is room for Kelly. Be interesting to see what Ellis does, my thoughts are we have to keep him at the club, one way or another.'"
Does Ellis live in/around Hull?
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| Quote ="PCollinson1990"Does Ellis live in/around Hull?'"
Wetherby area I think
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| Think it's the right decision to increase the cap, although I would only allow teams with a reserve team to have the extra cap.
The other two rules I don't like, the 2 marquee players seems pointless as no really uses it now and it seems to me it's for Wigan to keep Williams.
I don't like the rule to attack Uonion players as it could really be abused by clubs with cash, in theory they could sign 3 top Union players and spend 1 million over the cap.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Think it's the right decision to increase the cap, although I would only allow teams with a reserve team to have the extra cap.
The other two rules I don't like, the 2 marquee players seems pointless as no really uses it now and it seems to me it's for Wigan to keep Williams.
I don't like the rule to attack Uonion players as it could really be abused by clubs with cash, in theory they could sign 3 top Union players and spend 1 million over the cap.'"
Already started. Wire sign Taylor Prell from Union after scoring 4 tries against FC reserves.
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| ... apart from the new cap regulations not starting until 2018.
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| Quote ="ccs"... apart from the new cap regulations not starting until 2018.'"
And that's if they're approved by the RFL!
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| .... and they have been (yesterday) .
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| Quote ="ccs".... and they have been (yesterday)
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| About time this happened
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| Quote ="ccs"... apart from the new cap regulations not starting until 2018.'"
Fully aware of that, just pointing it out. Where do they get their cap space
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| Looking at the Williams deal, we could know have Taylor and Houghton as our marquee players as only 75k of their salary on our cap so saving us quite a bit of cap?
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| Just found out you have to may a marquee player at least 175k so doubt we will have any player on above that.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Just found out you have to may a marquee player at least 175k so doubt we will have any player on above that.'"
.... and 2 overseas marquee players would cost £350k of the salary cap, or about 20% spent on just 2 players.
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| Quote ="ccs".... and 2 overseas marquee players would cost £350k of the salary cap, or about 20% spent on just 2 players.'"
Would be 300k as anything over 150k doesn't count, but I get your point.
The only way I'd consider using a marquee player is to either sign a top halfback or replace Ellis.
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| .... £100k is the club trained limit, £175k for not club trained.
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I'm getting confused now, the salary cap rules say £100K, but I always thought it was £150K for club trained.
And next years rule:
• Each Super League club would be entitled to dispensation for two Marquee Players whose Salary Cap value would be (but for the Regulation) £175k or more.
• The Regulation would distinguish between Marquee Players as follows: (i) Club Trained Marquee Players be deemed to have a Salary Cap Value of £75k; and (ii) all other Marquee Players be deemed to have a Salary Cap Value of £150k.
So Houghton would cost us £75k on the cap next year?
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| The salary cap element is one thing. Having the money to spend is another.
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| Quote ="ccs".... £100k is the club trained limit, £175k for overseas players.
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I'm getting confused now, the salary cap rules say £100K, but I always thought it was £150K for club trained.
And next years rule:
• Each Super League club would be entitled to dispensation for two Marquee Players whose Salary Cap value would be (but for the Regulation) £175k or more.
• The Regulation would distinguish between Marquee Players as follows: (i) Club Trained Marquee Players be deemed to have a Salary Cap Value of £75k; and (ii) all other Marquee Players be deemed to have a Salary Cap Value of £150k.
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As far I as can work out the rules are
To be a marquee player you have to earn over 175k
If you are club trained only 75k of that salary counts on the cap
If you are overseas or not club trained, 150k counts in the cap.
So far us, if we payed Kelly 200k, only 150k would count.
If we payed Houghton 200k only 75k would count.
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