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| Naughton is really a full back and a pretty good one but he won't play there for us due to shaul
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Throughout his career? You mean the dozen or so games he played in the NRL, how many were at 6 in fact? He might think he's a six but he bloody well isn't.
He's not even remotely half as good as Richard Horne, in fact I'd say at the start of the season pryce was performing better than Carlos has in any game he's started at 6.
I'm open to suggestions regarding players and their positions, Naughton will never be a 9, certainly not at this club. His tackling technique isn't good enough for starters and then there's the matter of him easily getting run over.
Out and out scoot merchant at the expense of defensive frailty, no thanks.'"
Naughton is 21, give us all break. Let's judge the lad next season when he gets a run in the team. Seriously I've heard all this in the past with Shaul, now we're doing it with Naughton. I hope the lad doesn't read these posts. Give me strength !
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| But you're right he's no 9.
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| Quote ="TMan24tm"Naughton is 21, give us all break. Let's judge the lad next season when he gets a run in the team. Seriously I've heard all this in the past with Shaul, now we're doing it with Naughton. I hope the lad doesn't read these posts. Give me strength !'"
I'm not doing him down, I'm saying he does not fit the criteria for a good no.9, if you can't see that his tackling technique is average at best and that he has being run over even by opposing wingers/centres never mind forwards then that's a shortcoming you'll need to address.
At 21 if you have mickey poor technique and are small that isn't something you can address overnight, not by a long chalk. He also doesn't fit into the mould that Radford appears to strictly want in a no.9 otherwise we might still have James Cunningham on the books.
I've no problem with Naughton having a run at the wingers role, I've no problem giving him a go at full back or even stand-off, as a 9, I really absolutely cannot see him being suited due to what I mentioned previously.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII" He might think he's a six but he bloody well isn't.'"
Was that the similar logic you applied to Radford when you petitioned for his removal? He might think he's a coach but he isn't.
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| Quote ="Freddie Miller."Was that the similar logic you applied to Radford when you petitioned for his removal? He might think he's a coach but he isn't.'"
....and still not had the balls to apologise for.
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| Knockersbump, I said underneath my post that he's no number 9 and I also actually think his tackling is improving and please tell me your not going to say he was at fault for two of those tries last week otherwise I give up. The Bin man ran from his line diagonally on two occasions and left him isolated. I have a feeling that if Naughton got a run on the wing he would keep improving. In the early part of the season his finishing was deadly, we just don't seem to get the ball out wide enough at times and rely too much on our forwards.
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| Quote ="Freddie Miller."Was that the similar logic you applied to Radford when you petitioned for his removal? He might think he's a coach but he isn't.'"
Don't worry, there are other boards on RL FANS he's equally adept at making himself look a t!t on.
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| Quote ="Freddie Miller."Was that the similar logic you applied to Radford when you petitioned for his removal? He might think he's a coach but he isn't.'"
oh Yawn, isn't this the default idiots retort when someone decides they don't agree with what someone else has written, Grow up ffs! there was nothing incorrect in what i wrote some 15-16months ago, that Radford got lucky in so far as the owner actually deciding we needed to spending some cash and getting decent players otherwise Radford was taking us no-where at that point in time and we were absolutely dreadful so I'm not apologising.
As I said at the beginning of the season, we should be getting a squad like ours into the top 4 and I've given congratulations throughout the season.
But back to CT, he may have played at 6 as a schoolboy that doesn't mean that that role is suited to his game, as many others have said, they'd rather have him at centre than SO
getting narky because someone has a differing opinion just sets you into the troll group that frequent here.
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| I don't personally rate tuimavave at 6 and his defence isn't good enough in the centres
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| I see bumpy's back to his usual abusive self again, not that he's ever been anything else.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I don't personally rate tuimavave at 6 and his defence isn't good enough in the centres'"
To be fair Jake defence is one thing that Carlos has improved since he has been here.
He will make a good centre,has good feet,can pass a ball,fair pace and is alert enough to back up the runner when breaks are made.
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| Quote ="bonaire"To be fair Jake defence is one thing that Carlos has improved since he has been here.
He will make a good centre,has good feet,can pass a ball,fair pace and is alert enough to back up the runner when breaks are made.'"
Both edges leaked tries like a sieve before fonua and yeaman moved into the cnetres
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| hope yeaman is the same side as gelling tomorrow night!
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII".
But back to CT, he may have played at 6 as a schoolboy that doesn't mean that that role is suited to his game, as many others have said, they'd rather have him at centre than SO
getting narky because someone has a differing opinion just sets you into the troll group that frequent here.'"
Forget his school days for a moment.
After becoming a Professional rugby league player when he signed for Canterbury Bulldogs in 2010 he has played at Junior International, Senior International, NRL (Top tier, reserves and U 20's ) and Super League levels. In all that time he has only played a handful of games at centre and full back compared to his primary position No 6. I repeat from my earlier post "throughout his career his primary position has been at No6."
Where he plays from now is up to Radford and the coaching staff and personal opinions on here count for nothing as far as they are concerned. Mine for what it is worth is that he is a far better No6 than a centre.
Glad you have put me into the troll group basket- will try to justify my elevation there and practice my narkyness.
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| Quote ="Freddie Miller."Forget his school days for a moment.
After becoming a Professional rugby league player when he signed for Canterbury Bulldogs in 2010 he has played at Junior International, Senior International, NRL (Top tier, reserves and U 20's ) and Super League levels. In all that time he has only played a handful of games at centre and full back compared to his primary position No 6. I repeat from my earlier post "throughout his career his primary position has been at No6."
Where he plays from now is up to Radford and the coaching staff and personal opinions on here count for nothing as far as they are concerned. Mine for what it is worth is that he is a far better No6 than a centre.
Glad you have put me into the troll group basket- will try to justify my elevation there and practice my narkyness.'"
He thinks eveyone who disagrees with him (everyone else on the board) is a troll and a bully.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"oh Yawn, isn't this the default idiots retort when someone decides they don't agree with what someone else has written, Grow up ffs! there was nothing incorrect in what i wrote some 15-16months ago, that Radford got lucky in so far as the owner actually deciding we needed to spending some cash and getting decent players otherwise Radford was taking us no-where at that point in time and we were absolutely dreadful so I'm not apologising.
As I said at the beginning of the season, we should be getting a squad like ours into the top 4 and I've given congratulations throughout the season.
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It wasn't going to be a quick fix after Bomber and Gentle had done the club no favours in the misguided hope of finding one.
You were obviously to stupid and impatient to see that and got trigger happy feeling the premature misjudged need to come out all guns blazing shooting from the hip.
That's the reason you now look silly.
A spineless , disdainful, know-it-all, whom I'm relieved I don't have the pleasure of.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"oh Yawn, isn't this the default idiots retort when someone decides they don't agree with what someone else has written, Grow up ffs! there was nothing incorrect in what i wrote some 15-16months ago, that Radford got lucky in so far as the owner actually deciding we needed to spending some cash and getting decent players otherwise Radford was taking us no-where at that point in time and we were absolutely dreadful so I'm not apologising.
As I said at the beginning of the season, we should be getting a squad like ours into the top 4 and I've given congratulations throughout the season.
But back to CT, he may have played at 6 as a schoolboy that doesn't mean that that role is suited to his game, as many others have said, they'd rather have him at centre than SO
getting narky because someone has a differing opinion just sets you into the troll group that frequent here.'"
We was dreadful but you judged the work of old toothless with someone else's tools, me & others said lets judge him when he gets his own, but you decided to light the pitchforks & tried to drive him out of town, you are an over the top poster who talks utter gash, so proper fans of the club will forever jump on you, you play with feathers you should expect to get your ar5e tickled.
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| It does give a little food for thought as to what kind of mess we may have been in had Bumpy and the hang em high brigade gotten their wishes and had our present coach ousted.
A transitional no-mans-land I would probably hazard a guess at.
Thank fook AP had some backbone, we should all be eternally grateful for that.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"oh Yawn, isn't this the default idiots retort when someone decides they don't agree with what someone else has written, Grow up ffs! there was nothing incorrect in what i wrote some 15-16months ago, that Radford got lucky in so far as the owner actually deciding we needed to spending some cash and getting decent players otherwise Radford was taking us no-where at that point in time and we were absolutely dreadful so I'm not apologising.
As I said at the beginning of the season, we should be getting a squad like ours into the top 4 and I've given congratulations throughout the season.'"
You didn't [ijust[/i offer your opinion about Radford, did you?
You started a public petition to get him sacked from his job.
You hurled personal insults at him, 'turd' being the most famous.
You then lied about saying those insults and was duly put in your place by MrsB not long ago.
You made allegations that Radford was bullying our young players.
All of those things go way past the line of offering an opinion or having a debate about the coach, and you still don't have the humility to make an apology, admit what you did was wrong and draw a line under all the dirty, underhand things you did/said.
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| Quote ="DGM"You didn't [ijust[/i offer your opinion about Radford, did you?
You started a public petition to get him sacked from his job.
You hurled personal insults at him, 'turd' being the most famous.
You then lied about saying those insults and was duly put in your place by MrsB not long ago.
You made allegations that Radford was bullying our young players.
All of those things go way past the line of offering an opinion or having a debate about the coach, and you still don't have the humility to make an apology, admit what you did was wrong and draw a line under all the dirty, underhand things you did/said.'"
Well said.
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| "[iYou must take action immediately to dismiss Lee Radford, he will not fall on his sword as he promised to do when he stated he'd walk if he couldn't do a job..So it is up to you to hold your hand up and say you got it badly badly, wrong..Mr Radford hasn't and cannot do a good job in leading our proud club forward, there is clear enough evidence of that. [/i
[uYour failure to act NOW wll have dire consequences on OUR club not just for the next 6 months but well into the future[/u".
Radford [igot lucky[/i, apparently, but fortunately made you look a grade A pr!ck in doing so.
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| Quote ="WIZEB""[iYou must take action immediately to dismiss Lee Radford, he will not fall on his sword as he promised to do when he stated he'd walk if he couldn't do a job..So it is up to you to hold your hand up and say you got it badly badly, wrong..Mr Radford hasn't and cannot do a good job in leading our proud club forward, there is clear enough evidence of that. [/i
[uYour failure to act NOW wll have dire consequences on OUR club not just for the next 6 months but well into the future[/u".
Radford [igot lucky[/i, apparently, but fortunately made you look a grade A pr!ck in doing so.
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Got lucky though! What an insult.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"Got lucky though! What an insult.'"
Don't be insulted.
I'm glad Bumpy's around, he' the proverbial gift that finds it impossible to stop giving.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"Got lucky though! What an insult.'"
Awful. Radford helps deliver to Bumpy (and the rest of us) one of the best days of our lives at Wembley, achieved what no other Hull coach could, and he's called 'lucky'. Unbelievable.
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