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| Agree with the two above posts, had end of season game written all over it, too many errors from us a referee who must challenge James childs' for being out of his depth, although we didn't deserve anything today, Warrington got a lot of 50/50 calls their way and 3 or 4 tries they got were certainly questionable
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| imo I do worry about both fash and downs weight and size, hopefully there will fill out but imo just not big enough atm, there was talk of fash being a hooker at one stage?
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| Quote ="number 6"Agree with the two above posts, had end of season game written all over it, too many errors from us a referee who must challenge James childs' for being out of his depth, although we didn't deserve anything today, Warrington got a lot of 50/50 calls their way and 3 or 4 tries they got were certainly questionable'"
We deserved to lose but the scoreline flattered wire
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"We was always gonna get battered with Sandow playing. Credit to Radford, hes giving some of the young lads game time.
Funny how our red n white six fingered freinds have very short memories though and are no calling us super 8 whipping boys! One even said to me hed rather have lost at Wembley 50-0 than be in our position where we lose most games in the top 8.
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Why sandow has been poor since he arrived
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| Trail game for both! But we got mullered! I cant help but fear next season, we could of signed slater, inglis and thurston and id still be worried . Hope im proven drastically wrong
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| Radford puts the kids in and we get battered,he can't win,we had our 2,3,4,5,6 ,11out today and that is a hell of a lot of experience.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Radford puts the kids in and we get battered,he can't win,we had our 2,3,4,5,6 ,11out today and that is a hell of a lot of experience.'"
lost westerman after 15-20 minutes, fash played the rest of the game too
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| Quote ="number 6"lost westerman after 15-20 minutes, fash played the rest of the game too'"
No wonder we struggled and I'd like to see any team play with that much disruption
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Radford puts the kids in and we get battered,he can't win,we had our 2,3,4,5,6 ,11out today and that is a hell of a lot of experience.'"
Spot on. People clamour for Radford to 'give the youngsters a chance' and when he does he gets nailed because they're outmatched by seasoned pros.
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| spot on posts baldy and kosh
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| Quote ="Kosh"Spot on. People clamour for Radford to 'give the youngsters a chance' and when he does he gets nailed because they're outmatched by seasoned pros.'"
At last, a touch of reality. Poor old Lee can't win can he. If he doesn't give them a chance he gets accused of looking after his mates and if he does play them he's in the wrong again.
A bad result yesterday but these things happen.
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| Think a few of you are reading imaginary posts, nobody as slated radford on here for playing young players. But carry on giving each other pats on the backs for your posts! Its funny
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| The thing is though these kids might have been better if Radford had actually utilised them (more) earlier in the season and thus have more expereince under their belts, in some instances they could well have been better than some regulars. As i stated in another thread between them they'd played a handful of games before the 8s started, it's all well and good giving the kids experience when the season is effectively over and indeed it is valuable but it's not the same when it means more in the scheme of things when you are still fighting to achieve.
If as likely we go into next season with the names we know are the starters, how many games will the likes of Fash, Downs, Logan et al get in the first 3/4 of the season...10 games again between them?
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| I wasn't there but sounds like a problem across the team pretty much rather than being down to the young players. Whilst I doubt radford's abilities to actually coach the team, I did think his strong point was in trying to instill a stronger mentality across the playing staff at the club but yesterday seems to show he isn't making the progress we need.
Hopefully we'll be better on friday as wigan will stick 60 on us if we're off our game
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I wasn't there but sounds like a problem across the team pretty much rather than being down to the young players. Whilst I doubt radford's abilities to actually coach the team, I did think his strong point was in trying to instill a stronger mentality across the playing staff at the club but yesterday seems to show he isn't making the progress we need.
Hopefully we'll be better on friday as wigan will stick 60 on us if we're off our game'"
I genuinely think it should have been about 34-22. Then we could have just had our civic reception and got on with things.
Don't get me wrong we were not great but we did not get mullered like the score suggests. IMO
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| Just seen the try's, some really really awful defending out wide by our backs and once again our failure to deal with kicks.
Certainly worried about our backs next year if the gambles don't pay off, not convinced Micheals and Talanoa are good enough for the wings. Are Naughton and Lancaster ready?
No good having a great pack if your backs aren't good enough.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Just seen the try's, some really really awful defending out wide by our backs and once again our failure to deal with kicks.
Certainly worried about our backs next year if the gambles don't pay off, not convinced Micheals and Talanoa are good enough for the wings. Are Naughton and Lancaster ready?
[i[iNo good having a great pack if your backs aren't good enough[/i[/i.'"
Not saying he's a bad signing but we should have used the Manu money (which is likely to be a fair wedge) and signed a quality centre.
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| Quote ="Marcus's Bicycle"Not saying he's a bad signing but we should have used the Manu money (which is likely to be a fair wedge) and signed a quality centre.'"
I agree, but is there one available, I'm as worried about the wings as the centre position.
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| Quote ="Dave K."I agree, but is there one available, I'm as worried about the wings as the centre position.'"
Absolutely. I'm not 100% about Shaul either. I do rate Talanoa and sounds like Fonua could go well, but the imbalance between forwards and backs is stark.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Absolutely. I'm not 100% about Shaul either. I do rate Talanoa and sounds like Fonua could go well, but the imbalance between forwards and backs is stark.'"
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Certainly isn't a top 4 backline, on paper probably still the worst in the current top 8.
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| Kris Welham hasn't signed his contract yet and after last week's performance we could get him on the cheap.....
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| He's yours. Two all day prinny key parking permits and a bike repair kit.
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| Quote ="Dave K."I prefer Talanoa in the centres, so as it stands I would go with
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Certainly isn't a top 4 backline, on paper probably still the worst in the current top 8.
I really hope I am wrong.'"
Not exactly Hardaker, Briscoe, Moon, Watkins, Hall, is it?
Sod it, put Frank in the centres.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"He's yours. Two all day prinny key parking permits and a bike repair kit.'"
Throw in a bag of Bob Carver's chips with scraps and you've got yourself a deal.
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| I'd rather put a brain damaged sheep in the centres than Welham. He must have the same set of incriminating photo's as Yeaman to stay in the first team so long.
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