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| Quote ="Errlee Berd"'"
No sensitivity here at all petal and not what I'd actually portrayed in my post.
But well done for displaying great immaturity once again and contributing nothing as always to a reasoned discussion.
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| A hundred different people will have heard that interview in a hundred different ways.
It did sound to me as though the only fans that mattered were the ones who turned up at Saints, but I'm not offended because I couldn't care less what Lee thinks or says.
I only want success for Hull FC and although I wasn't happy with his appointment I still wish him all the luck in the world. ATEOTD if we are a winning team playing attractive rugby I don't care who the coach is
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| Quote ="Bombed Out"No sensitivity here at all petal and not what I'd actually portrayed in my post.
But well done for displaying great immaturity once again and contributing nothing as always to a reasoned discussion.
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No, I think you are being sensitive. Two days on, and you're still wittering on about a throw away comment the coach made. On three separate threads too. You not got anything more important to worry about?
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| Quote ="Errlee Berd"No, I think you are being sensitive. Two days on, and you're still wittering on about a throw away comment the coach made. On three separate threads too. You not got anything more important to worry about?'"
Yes I've made at least 3 comments on it since Monday hardly call that wittering love you really need to know what words mean before you start using them and me personally I'm not bothered about what Radford said. More interested in games on the pitch unlike you who seems to have a little agenda.
Never mind move on.
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| Which ever way you look at it we are a devided club atm and i dont think Radfords comments have done anything to help that. The club needs all parties to be on side and not to be alienating anyone with remarks that can be read as being negative towards them. There are now many fans, like myself, who feel like they've had enough and comments made by the coach that seem to be antagonistic towards these people will only drive them further away
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| Bye bye seb how many times you said you leaving here and not supporting fc lol to many to remember. Not a man of your word
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"Don't understand why you have to drop your purse all the time cherub, you get your little self in a right pickle! Anyway keep stewing yourself up & posting tripe, because I'm sure AP & LR read your amazing posts & act upon your every word.....
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Hahaha, if anyone has dropped anything it's you darling, you're so precious over Radford, and absolutely [iany[/i form of criticism of him by forum members you throw your dummy out each and every time with either insults, inflaming posts and general thread derailing bile directed personally at said posters.
Your pathetic attempts are nothing to do with reasonable discussion, I guess because you just aren't able to, but relying on your preferred method of rebuffing an arguement as described above to somehow try to put your version of events over..well in the grown ups world that doesn't work darling.
P.S. I appreciate you think my posts are amazing, I just go for accurate reading of situations, some can't see it, some don't want to see it. That said however I don't think LR reads them, as you're such cozy buds why not copy and paste a few into an email to him darling, you never know some of it might sink in..his head not yours, you are a lost cause...
But I'll give you a chance to redeem yourself, do you have any cogent discussion to add to the forum regarding what LR said or are you just going to carry on with playground tactics?
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| Divided club? Deary me, where do people dream this up?
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| Quote ="*1865*"Divided club? Deary me, where do people dream this poop up?'"
It is a divided club with out a doubt. Unless you don't consider fans to be a part of the club?
Sebs post is correct. Radford needs to keep his mouth shut and get on with his job. If people have said things he doesn't like he should be knuckling down and proving them wrong, not taking poorly worded pot shots at them. All it does is turn people against him more, morale amongst fans is already low, with a lot of people contemplating not going for a while. He is the leader and face of our club, he should act as such.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"It is a divided club with out a doubt. Unless you don't consider fans to be a part of the club?
Sebs post is correct. Radford needs to keep his mouth shut and get on with his job. If people have said things he doesn't like he should be knuckling down and proving them wrong, not taking poorly worded pot shots at them. All it does is turn people against him more, morale amongst fans is already low, with a lot of people contemplating not going for a while. He is the leader and face of our club, he should act as such.'"
Good post and quite correct. Its not like me to agree with Seb, but on this one he's got it right. There are serious divisions within the fanbase.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"It is a divided club with out a doubt. Unless you don't consider fans to be a part of the club?
Sebs post is correct. Radford needs to keep his mouth shut and get on with his job. If people have said things he doesn't like he should be knuckling down and proving them wrong, not taking poorly worded pot shots at them. All it does is turn people against him more, morale amongst fans is already low, with a lot of people contemplating not going for a while. He is the leader and face of our club, he should act as such.'"
Rubbish, the clubs not divided in the slightest. As evidenced by the continuing support from the fans both home & away, a dozen or so disgruntled fans on a message board does not represent division. If i'm being honest, from my own personal experiences this season I think the club and the fans are closer than ever, been some great attendances away and the events incorporated in the 150 year celebrations have been outstanding.
Again, i'll stress - a dozen or so disgruntled fans on a message board does not represent division.
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| Quote ="*1865*"Rubbish, the clubs not divided in the slightest. As evidenced by the continuing support from the fans both home & away, a dozen or so disgruntled fans on a message board does not represent division. If i'm being honest, from my own personal experiences this season I think the club and the fans are closer than ever, been some great attendances away and the events incorporated in the 150 year celebrations have been outstanding.
Again, i'll stress - a dozen or so disgruntled fans on a message board does not represent division.'"
Did you not go last Thursday ha! more than a dozen or so disgruntled fans you'll find if you did. More like 850 fans who ain't disgruntled that travelled to saints on Monday
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| Quote ="Tinkerman23"Did you not go last Thursday ha! more than a dozen or so disgruntled fans you'll find if you did. More like 850 fans who ain't disgruntled that travelled to saints on Monday'"
So, the exodus from the stadium before full time when losing to your rivals indicates division?
Just because people aren't happy doesn't mean there's division. It's ludicrous.
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| IMO theres no split in fans. Just a lot of us are fed up with the team ATM .
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| Quote ="*1865*"So, the exodus from the stadium before full time when losing to your rivals indicates division?
Just because people aren't happy doesn't mean there's division. It's ludicrous.'"
So the fact that there are differing viewpoints does not represent division. The following is the definition of division as taken from my dictionary.
A disagreement; a difference of viewpoint between two sides of an argument.
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"So the fact that there are differing viewpoints does not represent division. The following is the definition of division as taken from my dictionary.
A disagreement; a difference of viewpoint between two sides of an argument.'"
It represents a division between the fan base yes, but not a divided club! Our support of our team is outstanding, as evidenced at every game i've been to. Doing the Wigan walk because we're getting mullered at home by our rivals doesn't indicate division, it displays displeasure at the performance.
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| Quote ="*1865*"So, the exodus from the stadium before full time when losing to your rivals indicates division?
Just because people aren't happy doesn't mean there's division. It's ludicrous.'"
Id say 80% if not more, would be happy to see Radford walk or fired. 80%, 20% divide, Id say that's a division.
Maybe I'm wrong, but apart from yourself, I don't know 1 Hull fan who thinks he's up to the job. Saying that, if Pearsons right about Radford and he just needs time, making you right also, I'll be the first to apologise. And I hope I have to. But 1 win doesn't make you right about Radford
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| Quote ="Tinkerman23"Id say 80% if not more, would be happy to see Radford walk or fired. 80%, 20% divide, Id say that's a division.
Maybe I'm wrong, but apart from yourself, I don't know 1 Hull fan who thinks he's up to the job. Saying that, if Pearsons right about Radford and he just needs time, making you right also, I'll be the first to apologise. And I hope I have to. But 1 win doesn't make you right about Radford'"
There's a difference between differing opinions in the fan base and division in the club.
I've not judged Radford on this season yet, said i'd give him at least 10 games which is what I intend to do. I've stated in another thread that 4 from 10 was bare minimum and that that had to be improved in to 8 from 15 and then around 14 from the first 23. Those I see as acceptable, what I don't see as acceptable is any less than 11 from 23.
I just don't like overreacting to a few performances.
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| Quote ="*1865*"I just don't like overreacting to a few performances.'"
I know I don't speak for everyone but my opinion on Radford is based on last season as well as this season.
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| Me too. And I am disgruntled yet also one of the 850 who travelled to Saints. And most of the people I spoke to on Monday also have serious worries.
I'm ecstatic we won, and I'm pleased for Radford and hope this is the start of the upturn for him to prove me wrong. But I don't think it will prove to be as the issues run deeper than one half decent performance against a depleted Saints team - they stem from the concerning way Radford found his way to the top job in the first place. In my opinion.
But lets see what Friday brings. I'll be there, and cheering, but still worried about not just the team, but the club as a whole.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"Me too. And I am disgruntled yet also one of the 850 who travelled to Saints. And most of the people I spoke to on Monday also have serious worries.
I'm ecstatic we won, and I'm pleased for Radford and hope this is the start of the upturn for him to prove me wrong. But I don't think it will prove to be as the issues run deeper than one half decent performance against a depleted Saints team - they stem from the concerning way Radford found his way to the top job in the first place. In my opinion.
But lets see what Friday brings. I'll be there, and cheering, but still worried about not just the team, but the club as a whole.'"
Terrific post which sums up I think what many of us are thinking!
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| Quote ="*1865*"There's a difference between differing opinions in the fan base and division in the club.
I've not judged Radford on this season yet, said i'd give him at least 10 games which is what I intend to do. I've stated in another thread that 4 from 10 was bare minimum and that that had to be improved in to 8 from 15 and then around 14 from the first 23. Those I see as acceptable, what I don't see as acceptable is any less than 11 from 23.
I just don't like overreacting to a few performances.'"
Getting to 8 from 15 would mean winning 5 of the next 6. 14 from 23 would have been optimistic pre-season, and now requires 11 from the remaining 14 pre-split games. That's a tall order.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Getting to 8 from 15 would mean winning 5 of the next 6. 14 from 23 would have been optimistic pre-season, and now requires 11 from the remaining 14 pre-split games. That's a tall order.'"
especially when we rarely, if ever, win 2 games in a row under Radford, we are now going to be required at some point to win 4 in a row to achieve the target
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Getting to 8 from 15 would mean winning 5 of the next 6. 14 from 23 would have been optimistic pre-season, and now requires 11 from the remaining 14 pre-split games. That's a tall order.'"
Yep, well, shouldn't have lost 6 of the first 9 then!
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| One win doesn't make a season, nor does it change the big picture.
Lee Radford has now been in his post for over 18 months and his performance should be reviewed over the progress made over that period.
At the start of last season, I thought we were still suffering from a Wembley/Hudderfield Play Off defeat hangover and some tolerance could be given to Radfords initial tenure.
However, this season it's his squad, his playing style etc. Monday's win was obviously welcome and potentially give's Lee a chance to still make it as Hull's Coach. He'll definately be in charge for the next two games now. Two wins against Widnes and Wakefield (currently the other weakest clubs in the league), will take us to between 7th and 10th in the league and provide real hope for a Top 8 finish. Defeat in either, will proably resign us to the Middle 8.
With the Saints win, he's now earned the right to see how we go in the next two games, however to me I'm still not convinced. I'm not sure Hull fans will ever really warm to him as a coach. He has not had the best of starts and he comes across as very dour. You only need to compare his manner to Chris Chester, rightly bubbling with joy after their Deby win and also happy to beat Huddersfield, but reflective on the performance.
On Monday, Radford should have at least raised a smile. Not a celebration, but at least a start and opportunity (with the games coming up) to develop a run. Instead he unemotionally went through the motions. He may argure, he doesn't get excited when we win or lose, but I'd rather see that he had enjoyed the victory and was hungry for the next one.
I hope he will go on to prove me wrong, however I still suspect we will be having the same debate at the end of May, when our fate will almost be sealed.
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