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| And what if we beat Rovers, Hudds and Leeds? We would then have 4 wins and a draw in our last 6!!
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| Quote ="paintman"Lets be honest we've only had 3 decent wins all season Saints and Salford at home and Widnes away.We beat London twice(as expected).Catalans who were suffering suspensions and injuries,Bradford who were in meltdown at the time,Huddersfield who had 3 days less rest and still sulking after they felt they had been robbed against Saints with Danny Brough more interested in whinging and trying to pick a fight with anyone who would have one.We've also managed to scrape a last second draw at Wakey and if Sneyd had brought his kicking boots the Cas game would have ended in another home defeat.
Time for Radford admit he isnt upto the job and quit.'"
If Bosc had not missed with the last kick of the game in round 1 we would've dropped another point.
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| Quote ="Diogenes"If we beat Rovers there will be some who will think all in the garden is rosy again and Radford is the man to take us forwards.'"
This is HIGHLY unlikely.
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| Quote ="Chris28"And if we lose to Rovers, Hudds and Leeds, all of which is distinctly possible, we would have one win from our last 11 games at the end of the season. After Widnes we've only beaten Saints, so far'"
And all this after our form has noticeably improved.
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| Quote ="daveh"And what if we beat Rovers, Hudds and Leeds? We would then have 4 wins and a draw in our last 6!!'"
Fair point, but you have to admit it's unlikely
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| Quote ="Chris28"Fair point, but you have to admit it's unlikely'"
Leeds/Hudds could well rest players in our games.
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| Quote ="daveh"And what if we beat Rovers, Hudds and Leeds? We would then have 4 wins and a draw in our last 6!!'"
we haven't won 3 in a row all season, we're not going to start now
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| Quote ="Kosh"This is HIGHLY unlikely.'"
It seems that there are people who still think that thousands of fans are over the moon with this season's results.
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| Quote ="Offy"Should be intetesting to see everyones thoughts'"
Not sure it is interesting at all, as it represents the votes of keyboard warriors who are a minority across the whole group of supporters.
I voted No btw
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| Quote ="TrevLovesJanice"Not sure it is interesting at all, as it represents the votes of keyboard warriors who are a minority across the whole group of supporters.
I voted No btw'"
So it only represents the views of keyboard warriors? Yet you've also voted? So your also a keyboard warrior whose opinion should be instantly discounted. Congratulations.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"So it only represents the views of keyboard warriors? Yet you've also voted? So your also a keyboard warrior whose opinion should be instantly discounted. Congratulations.'"
Correct. Thereby showing the silliness of the whole thing !
(its called IRONY)
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| I find it amazing and interesting to hear those who are still supporting Radford. I'm not sure what it says about them as individuals or is merely a reflection of where the club is currently?
I do question the support he receives from AP? Is it Adam who isn't as forthcoming as he portrays in the media to help Radford, or Radfords inexperience to ask for help?
Either way to much water has passed under the bridge now and his position is unsustainable long term.
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| For what its worth I voted to give Radford a few games next season.
The reason for this... It seems obvious that Radford would have to physically assault Pearson to be sacked as it stands. Pearson appears to have a medium term plan to make is self sufficient via an effective youth system. To all looking from the outside that youth system is beginning to bear seed.
We are lead to understand that the first team had "issues" which were left by McRae / Gental (although I think there is some scapegoating there).
If we get another coach now, or even before the start of next season, will be have the well worn excuse of "Well, its not my team, judge me on my signings" which appears to be a staple phase used by some coaches?
Personally I think you only have to look at Powell at Cas to see what a competent coach can do with a collective group of players.
If results are not up to scratch after 6 games next season, I would get rid, having had someone lined up well before that.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"For what its worth I voted to give Radford a few games next season.
The reason for this... It seems obvious that Radford would have to physically assault Pearson to be sacked as it stands. Pearson appears to have a medium term plan to make is self sufficient via an effective youth system. To all looking from the outside that youth system is beginning to bear seed.
We are lead to understand that the first team had "issues" which were left by McRae / Gental (although I think there is some scapegoating there).
If we get another coach now, or even before the start of next season, will be have the well worn excuse of "Well, its not my team, judge me on my signings" which appears to be a staple phase used by some coaches?
Personally I think you only have to look at Powell at Cas to see what a competent coach can do with a collective group of players.
If results are not up to scratch after 6 games next season, I would get rid, having had someone lined up well before that.'"
That seems a pretty well-balanced view, and not unrealistic
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"For what its worth I voted to give Radford a few games next season.
The reason for this... It seems obvious that Radford would have to physically assault Pearson to be sacked as it stands. Pearson appears to have a medium term plan to make is self sufficient via an effective youth system. To all looking from the outside that youth system is beginning to bear seed.
We are lead to understand that the first team had "issues" which were left by McRae / Gental (although I think there is some scapegoating there).
If we get another coach now, or even before the start of next season, will be have the well worn excuse of "Well, its not my team, judge me on my signings" which appears to be a staple phase used by some coaches?
Personally I think you only have to look at Powell at Cas to see what a competent coach can do with a collective group of players.
If results are not up to scratch after 6 games next season, I would get rid, having had someone lined up well before that.'"
Only problem there is he has wasted us 6 games before we sack him and its not that easy to get a quality coach in when the season starts and it will be a new structure the new coach will try and put in while trying to figure out strengths and weaknesses of the team. Much easy for a Coach to get it all sorted out in the off season then having to play catch up after 6 games under immense pressure. Or we could do the sensible thing and sack Radford now and bring in a proper proven coach something Radford is quite clearly not.
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| The last time I looked if you add up those who said Resign and Get sacked it added up to 60% - Not wanted is he.
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| Quote ="Basher"The last time I looked if you add up those who said Resign and Get sacked it added up to 60% - Not wanted is he.'"
And I bet most of the people who vote "No" and "Give him a few games" would rather have someone else.
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| Sharp out, Agar our, Gentle out, Radford out. Who the hell is going to want to come to our club?
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| Quote ="joetwizzy"Sharp out, Agar our, Gentle out, Radford out. Who the hell is going to want to come to our club?'"
That's a VERY good question
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| Quote ="TrevLovesJanice"That's a VERY good question'"
Whoever it is I hope he's successful otherwise it'll be A N Other OUT
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| i didn't want gentle out...all I want is for a team that are competitive in the s.l and c.c. play some entertaining rugby. give us what we pay for, not the dross we have been served up this season.
to me, its clear to see radders hasn't a clue. if I could see hime improving things in any which way, then I'd say give him chance, but things have got worse by the week. only positive is he plays some players in the right position, eg- westerman.
not got time to air all my comments about him and his failings atm, so will just leave the rant there.....for now
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| Quote ="Mr-Benz"Only problem there is he has wasted us 6 games before we sack him and its not that easy to get a quality coach in when the season starts and it will be a new structure the new coach will try and put in while trying to figure out strengths and weaknesses of the team. Much easy for a Coach to get it all sorted out in the off season then having to play catch up after 6 games under immense pressure. Or we could do the sensible thing and sack Radford now and bring in a proper proven coach something Radford is quite clearly not.'"
I was just giving my view.
Realistically, where are these proven coaches? Whether it be now, in the off season or 6 games into next season, you can only go,and get what's available. A lot of SL clubs dismissed Powell due to his time at Leeds (Hull included )
6 games would give a decent bench mark and would not write off that season. Remember Peter Sharp came in after 6 games in 2006 and took us to the GF.
I am not happy with the current situation, but we need to be careful of too many knee jerk reactions.
One thing is for certain, whoever takes the field of play wearing a Hull shirt should get unanimous backing fo 80 minutes.
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| I voted quit. I can understand the sentiments of giving him 6 games next season , But we never had the best of pre-seasons and it's not got much better as the season's gone on . 24 games in and we're still as bad as at the start of the season . Bringing in someone now while we still have a bit of room for players to bring in and release & change some of the systems that are clearly not working under Radford .
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| Saying "it's obvious he hasn't got a clue" is pretty hard to substantiate
I am sure he knows a lot more about rl than most of us. Where i think he is failing is in motivational techniques.
The game plan and team he picks is more or less okay I reckon. He has brought the best out of westy for one, and has ditched some players that are obviously no good (and being well paid for being average).
I would just like the players to share his passion, and I wonder if he can get it across
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| Quote ="TrevLovesJanice"Saying "it's obvious he hasn't got a clue" is pretty hard to substantiate
I am sure he knows a lot more about rl than most of us. Where i think he is failing is in motivational techniques.
The game plan and team he picks is more or less okay I reckon. He has brought the best out of westy for one, and has ditched some players that are obviously no good (and being well paid for being average).
I would just like the players to share his passion, and I wonder if he can get it across'"
Are you off your rocker?
He's made some extremely basic errors, both from a playing point of view, team selction POV and man magement POV. He keeps on making the same errors and the team keeps on playing crap because they aren't motivated nor bothered to play for this out of depth 'coach'
That IMO substantiates that he hasn't got a clue..and frankly his actions/inactions speak volumes about his utter lack of coaching knowledge/ability..
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