A very simplistic VFM calculation, what will Crossrail generate as opposed to the A63 improvements?

A simple calculation was all that was required.


You seem to have lost track. Is this poor value for money because of the cost per km, or because it's not 'important', or because you believe it won't lead to future economic benefit?

What will Crossrail & A63 generate? It's virtually impossible to predict and you know that, that's why you asked. Of course, if you have the figures for the two, please share them. Not forgetting, you'd have to make that comparable to the relative sizes of the two projects, like I did with my simplistic calculations earlier.

When Crossrail opens in 2018 Londons population will be over 7mill

Is Hull's still falling sub 250K?

Thanks for that.

perspective, which is what I was driving at.

Anyway, should this not be on the Sin Bin...?

You can always rely on frepneyboy to provide perspective



Fair play on avoiding my points and providing & not backing up your crass 'value for money' comment at the start of the thread. Very 'standee'.

Dont worry, any time.

Look, its a bug bear of mine that in London approx £5000 is spent per head on transport infrastructure, and up here its anywhere between £5 and £250 per head.

I can see the arguments why, and do marvel at the engineering going into such projects. But it still bugs me.

Is crossrail value for money, probably

Is A63 value for money, possibly

Is the electrification of Hull to the ECML and Leeds value for money, most definate

Is the 2014 Hull FC squad value for money. NO

no points avoided, as none were made.

is there a little club of posters that meets and discusses this poster?, how nice, you could all gang up together and still never beat this down.

anyway, in respect for the new rules, A63 improvements......

Why do you believe they're not value for money?

because the economic numbers do not stack up, it's inconvenient rather than a problem.

Please provide them for us and explain why they don't stack up.

provide numbers as to why it DOES?

what economic boom will it provide?

Thanks, as I thought.

Next time, before making such a crass statement, make sure you're able to back it up.

so you can't counter my argument, but go for a "I'm not very clever" defence...

it's an O P I N I O N, and I've dealt with extortionist construction companies many times.

the thread doesn't even belong on here, it's nothing to do with RL/HullFC

Ah but the super dooper new road will allow the 2600000 Rovers fans to get to the KC and every away game they go to quicker.

I'd propose it has more to do with the people using this board than by far the vast majority of the sin bin.

The Castle Street junction was a pig's ear from the very start. Couple it with that bleeding swing bridge and it was clear there were always going to be problems. Quite why the swing bridge was there in the first place is beyond me. Surely it would've been cheaper to elevate the road to the same height as the flood barrier and avoid the need for an opening crossing altogether?

so can we start discussing Hull City as well?

Perhaps you could provide us with a clue to something that you actually like, or don't particularly hate and then we can all have a jolly friendly discussion.

PS I'm not holding my breath.

Standee loves Rovers. Discuss.

Another thread about Standee. That's the thing he loves.

And I think this thread has run it's course.