So you will be totally self-funding in terms of pension, healthcare and all other ancilliaries, no matter how long you live past your productive life?

When you trot out this "if you can't afford kids, you shouldn't have them" line, as you often do, there are some who despair that your parents didn't hold a similar position

my parents never asked for someone else to fund me cod'ead, nor have I ever asked soeone else to fund me and mine.

But you do realise it's boring as fook, don't you?
There's plenty of us who haven't had kids but don't blame the woes of the world on those who have and are maybe struggling to support them.

You need to change the record mate.
You just come over all bitter and twisted.
Do yourself a favour.

Wouldn't the fact that people work all their lives and pay tax and NI mean they have paid for their pension and healthcare?

And even if he went to Switzerland he would still need some -one elses kids to help.

Cock on but Standee forgets who will look after him

Not bitter, not twisted, just fed up of the "hard working families" mantra, what about the hard working folk without kids, are we without value?

aaaannnyyywaay, it seems the macot opportunity is still available as a lottery as well as a cashetrocity.

By paying taxes and NI he's looked after himself.

Sheldon not falling out with you but what if Standee becomes very ill (hope not) even if after paying all his taxes (the same as you and I) he goes private - he will still be looked after by 'other peoples kids' It is life/procreation what ever we call it.

I'll have paid for it, not be expecting it for nothing. and they'll get paid for doing it.

I proper love student discount, it's ace.

I'm told that people have been saying that I am speaking on behalf of FC Voices and saying it's not a problem. I infact said I was concerned about it and only ever speak for myself and no one else and try to be objective, I rang the Club as an ordinary fan because I felt aggeived by what I read and was told what I put above I don't know the ins and outs of it but I got an explaination You can see why people don't bother on here any more can't you! In fact I think I'll join em!

Even when it was free it was hard to become a mascot. Every kid wanted to be one back in my day. I don't think its a case where we are looking at every possibility of making money. We have improved facilities, spent a cash load on new players and promoted young lads to first team. It's mainly following suit like other clubs. Some clubs charge more for that and even the whole matchday experience for watching RL, including rovers!

So you won't need a plumber then?
You wont need a mechanic to fix your car then?
If you do I hope they tell you to stuff off as you don't like kids something they used to be.

To be honest, I imagine he will have to pay them and have the means to do so.

I'm sorry I don't get what you mean.

By working and contributing to tax and NI he has "covered" himself with the NHS.

And I am sorry that you dont get it - but hey ho

No, I think he does get it, yes other people's kids will be "looking after me" in so far as they may be employed to do the job of the person that looks after me, but it won't be at a direct cost to them.

Anyway, it seems it 2 that pay and 1 that is the luck of the draw, and all 3 get the same experience, so it's the "best of both worlds", those that can pay will, those that can't still get a chance. Rather it wasn't happening, but this seems about the best compromise.

Genuine question...was your education privately funded from nursery to 6th Form (if applicable) because I don't see you complaining about who paid for your education.

His dad also bought the roads he travelled to school on and the airports he flew from on holiday

I can see why more people are staying away / not joining these boards.

Someone puts a comment and everyone shoots them down.

One person has a different POV to a few others and it's like being thrown to the wolves. Whatever happened to sensible open debate where both parties meet on common ground.

Standee obviously has a different opinion to the majority of folk, does not necessarily mean he is wrong.

Everyone contributes to society in different ways, some pay more in than others but due to govt legislation / UK constitution, the pot is available to all for different reasons, some we agree with, others we don't.

Work with it people, these boards are becoming very stale.

I do however expect to be shot down now for what seems a liberal POV - why bother....

Start reading Standees "different pov" in the SinBin and the way he talks to and treats people then you'll understand why people react to him the way they do.

Thanks for that, but don't worry, i've been getting stick from people don't agree with me for as long as I've been able to type, I can take it as much as I give it, unlike some poor delicate souls.