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| Quote ="hullbg"Isn't all business profiteering at the end of the day? '"
All businesses aim to make profit. There's a subtle difference between that and profiteering, though.
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| i cant believe the fuss!
If you dont want to pay, then f*** off to the south of France if you want to watch it
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Of course it is. And part of being a customer is to express an opinion about the services a business offers, and the cost/value for money thereof.
He's gone out of his way to do it because he'll make a shed load of cash from it, not out of some sense of altruism. The point the 'moaners' are making is that he'll make plenty of money from booze at a time when he would otherwise have been a lot quieter, and he'll still have the satellite equipment to use for future events. He probably will shift all the tickets - finding a couple of hundred people willing to pay a fiver out of a fanbase of 11,000 shouldn't be that difficult, but that doesn't mean it's reasonable to charge people a fiver to get into a pub.'"
Five quid to watch Hull for 2 hours or 10% of your wages to listen to some boring child molester tell you about something that can't be proven?
In that context it's a ing bargain.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"He eats they're because the food, service and value is the best he's found.'"
He does? Do you know that for sure? He might eat there (like I do at my local Italian) because it's within walking distance of his home and he doesn't have to drive/get a taxi. Besides, why he eats there is irrelevant. He still has the right to express an opinion on the matter as a regular customer of the business.
Quote ="Sheldon"He can still still eat there on saturday, maybe a hour or 2 earlier and he can by a ticket to watch his favorite club play live in the only pub showing it.
For an extra 5 quid. [uloving bargain.[/u'"
Well, the underlined part is open to debate. I don't consider £5 to get into a pub (for whatever reason) to be a bargain.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Five quid to watch Hull for 2 hours or 10% of your wages to listen to some boring child molester tell you about something that can't be proven?
In that context it's a loving bargain.'"
In that context, paying £100 to see Westlife would be a bargain!
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| pubs have been hit hard over the last few years so I don't begrudge the kid trying to make a few bob. Good on him. £5 ffs.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"He does? Do you know that for sure? He might eat there (like I do at my local Italian) because it's within walking distance of his home and he doesn't have to drive/get a taxi. Besides, why he eats there is irrelevant. He still has the right to express an opinion on the matter as a regular customer of the business.
Well, the underlined part is open to debate. I don't consider £5 to get into a pub (for whatever reason) to be a bargain.'"
Well if he's a lazy , the walk to another pub will do him good.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Bet you have got plenty left if you're charging people £4 (plus a pound to charity) to get in.'"
Maybe he should just charge £3.25 because if things go the usual route everyone will be leaving after 60 minutes anyway
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| Quote ="Rock God X"All businesses aim to make profit. There's a subtle difference between that and profiteering, though.'"
Work in the cost of the equipment, the card to receive the encrypted channel and it is reasonable. Saying he will use that equipment again in the future, of course he will but not very often. He cannot use it to show premier league football due to legal reasons so it will be a case of buying a card for 1 or 2 games a season.
At the end of the day you have a choice of whether to go or not he is not forcing anybody to go.
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| Quote ="hullbg"Work in the cost of the equipment, the card to receive the encrypted channel and it is reasonable. Saying he will use that equipment again in the future, of course he will but not very often. He cannot use it to show premier league football due to legal reasons so it will be a case of buying a card for 1 or 2 games a season.
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Actually, I think there was a test case a while back where a pub landlady was using a Greek (?) channel to show Premier League games. She was sued by Sky and won.
Quote ="hullbg"At the end of the day you have a choice of whether to go or not he is not forcing anybody to go.'"
Indeed. I was just expressing an opinion. I wouldn't be going anyway as I live 60 miles away. That M62 can be dicey after 6 or 7 pints.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"
Well, the underlined part is open to debate. I don't consider £5 to get into a pub (for whatever reason) to be a bargain.'"
I'm not paying a fiver to go to the pub, I'm paying a fiver to get into the only venue in Hull showing something Id like to see. I pay more than that to go to the cinema. Isnt it a fiver a week to get Hull FC tv and watch the match from a crappy camera angle?
What a fuss about nothing.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Actually, I think there was a test case a while back where a pub landlady was using a Greek (?) channel to show Premier League games. She was sued by Sky and won.
Indeed. I was just expressing an opinion. I wouldn't be going anyway as I live 60 miles away. That M62 can be dicey after 6 or 7 pints.'"
The way you were talking about the value of 5 quid i thought you'd moved to Iraq.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"I'm not paying a fiver to go to the pub, I'm paying a fiver to get into the only venue in Hull showing something Id like to see. '"
Did you miss the part where I said 'for whatever reason'?
I don't consider paying a fiver to get into a pub is good value. Pubs make their money from selling booze. This pub will sell loads of the stuff at a time when they wouldn't normally be anywhere near as busy. Adding an entrance fee is, in my opinion, profiteering.
Quote ="Robbo4"I pay more than that to go to the cinema. '"
And that's your choice. Just as it's my choice to say I don't think the cinema represents good value for money.
Quote ="Robbo4"Isnt it a fiver a week to get Hull FC tv and watch the match from a crappy camera angle?'"
Dunno, I don't get that, either.
Quote ="Robbo4"What a fuss about nothing.'"
What fuss? The only fuss has been from people saying "fook off to France and watch it" and suchlike. I've just very calmly expressed an opinion.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"The way you were talking about the value of 5 quid i thought you'd moved to Iraq.'"
It's not that £5 is a lot of money per se, but I think it's a lot to pay to get into a pub to watch a TV.
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| Wouldnt get this kerfuffle with Rovers fans. We pay more than this to watch ageing Aussies in press conferences and training sessions.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Did you miss the part where I said 'for whatever reason'?
I don't consider paying a fiver to get into a pub is good value. Pubs make their money from selling booze. This pub will sell loads of the stuff at a time when they wouldn't normally be anywhere near as busy. Adding an entrance fee is, in my opinion, profiteering.
And that's your choice. Just as it's my choice to say I don't think the cinema represents good value for money.
Dunno, I don't get that, either.
What fuss? The only fuss has been from people saying "fook off to France and watch it" and suchlike. I've just very calmly expressed an opinion.'" or if you look at it another way he has effectively closed his pub for the evening and turned it into a sports viewing venue. Presumably he won't be able to offer the usual food service due to the volume of people so he is simply making up his loss in food takings by charging an entry fee
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| Quote ="Rock God X"It's not that £5 is a lot of money per se, but I think it's a lot to pay to get into a pub to watch a TV.'"
Exactly, the fact we're all Hull fans has blinded people's judgement on this. So to put it into another perspective, if you turned up to YOUR LOCAL for something to eat or a few pints and they had an event on that they were charging for but had no interest to you, would you be happy to pay that cost to get into the pub? My point was that if you're a regular, you're having to pay out a £5 note to get into somewhere where it's free every other day. In effect you stick two fingers up at your regulars for the sake of £1000 - £1500
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| Is anyone allowed to start threads advertising their business, or does this bloke have special dispensation?
If so, I will be posting a thread in the next couple of days advertising my latest tour: =#8000FF'The Silky Polar Bear Tour'.
It's a show starring myself as the main act, singing, dancing, some stand-up comedy and a couple of very interesting anecdotes from my life involving a-list celebrities.
Tickets will be £45, with some going to the charity, 'Top Hats & Waistcoats'*.
* - 'Top Hats & Waistcosts' are a charity I founded, which specialises in making tailored top hats and waistcoats for wild polar bears.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"or if you look at it another way he has effectively closed his pub for the evening and turned it into a sports viewing venue. Presumably he won't be able to offer the usual food service due to the volume of people so he is simply making up his loss in food takings by charging an entry fee
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You don't think the wall to wall beer drinkers will more than offset lost food revenue? It's a lot easier to make profit from booze than it is cooked food. If you think of what goes into preparing a main course at six quid or a pint at three quid, you'd sell the pint over the main course every day of the week.
This'll teach me not to get involved in things that don't concern me. Actually, it probably won't...
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| Quote ="FC Guvnor"Exactly, the fact we're all Hull fans has blinded people's judgement on this. So to put it into another perspective, if you turned up to YOUR LOCAL for something to eat or a few pints and they had an event on that they were charging for but had no interest to you, would you be happy to pay that cost to get into the pub? My point was that if you're a regular, you're having to pay out a £5 note to get into somewhere where it's free every other day. In effect you stick two fingers up at your regulars for the sake of £1000 - £1500'"
As the pub will be at maximum capacity you wouldn't get in anyway. Actually I'd just go to a different pub for the 1 time in the entire year that this was happening and stop moaning.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"You don't think the wall to wall beer drinkers will more than offset lost food revenue? It's a lot easier to make profit from booze than it is cooked food. If you think of what goes into preparing a main course at six quid or a pint at three quid, you'd sell the pint over the main course every day of the week.
This'll teach me not to get involved in things that don't concern me. Actually, it probably won't...'"
Well as I've paid an entrance fee I'm under no obligation to consume beverages so to make up for the fiver I'll be nursing a tap water for most of the game
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| Quote ="Robbo4"As the pub will be at maximum capacity you wouldn't get in anyway. Actually I'd just go to a different pub for the 1 time in the entire year that this was happening and stop moaning.'"
As you're obviously not grasping what is a very simple point that i made, I don't expect an adult response. Any chance you could leave this thread for the grown ups ?
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| Quote ="Robbo4"Quote ="Rock God X"You don't think the wall to wall beer drinkers will more than offset lost food revenue? It's a lot easier to make profit from booze than it is cooked food. If you think of what goes into preparing a main course at six quid or a pint at three quid, you'd sell the pint over the main course every day of the week.
This'll teach me not to get involved in things that don't concern me. Actually, it probably won't...'"
Well as I've paid an entrance fee I'm under no obligation to consume beverages so to make up for the fiver I'll be nursing a tap water for most of the game
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Now there's an idea. You could take a hip flask!
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| Look if you thinks its expensive don;t go .........
I would love to go I liked the nights we had there before always a good laugh and atmosphere, but alas I am booked for aparty miles away.
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| There's no wonder this country is going down the shiitter. Some businessman invests in his business and now wants to make some cash abck and all he gets is a bunch of whining w@nkers having a pop at him.
If any one of said whining w@nkers wants to buy the kit and the channel subscription and show the game for free in their living room for anyone who wants to turn up then I'm sure there will be plenty of takers
The landlord is also a pass holder at teh KC so I'm sure he's not just doing this to make cash
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