The boat can't sink if it hasn't sailed yet. It takes time to build a top squad.

Think you need to change your location from 'Sunny...'.



Don't read too much into it I would say.

Manu: Rugby league is a short career and if he can get a better final salary wouldn't we all try to do our best. He knows he won't reacha testimonial with Hull which can be a big deciding factor when players get towards the end of there carerr. Plus Luauki also being an islander with a young family no longer in Hull and Sammy could be leaving in the coming year(s).

McKinnon: Who knows. Some people just don't settle abroad. Some friends of ours emigrated to New Zealand a few years ago lasted about 6 months. It can be a culture shock. Talk of fall-outs with Gentle and a work visa for his wife are speculation unless it's from the horses mouth. From a playing perspective I think he has been our best oversees signing this year but that is maybe unfair to Aaron.

It's also important to think it's the players job. Plenty of staff leave or go off the boil when the management changes and perhaps they don't fit with the culture. Doesn't make them a bad person and any of us would start looking for another job in that situation I'm sure.

Gentle isn't saying it's not his squad as he doesn't readily make excuses but I'll say it for him. He will have been well aware that we were very light at fullback and in the pack if injuries struck but is trying to play the hand he was dealt. IMHO Reece Lyne put his hand up for fullback as he want's to get a game and it is as now has been proven, our position with least cover. I'm not sure he'll make it in that position but we haven't seen enough at first team to gauge it.

In the halves, I think Ellis at 7 alongside Seymour at 6 would work best as Ellis has that creative spark that can make something out of nothing.

Been some fantastic posts namely from SupportPlay, Robo, lummy etc this is what these forums should be about!

As I said, it's not recruitment/new players next season i'm worried about , it's what we've lost up to now, and the predicament we are in half way through the season, that's all.

My biggest worry is the half back pairing and FB position. Having Horne @ FB leaves the most experienced HB as Seymour, quality at times but blows hot and cold, and needs to be consistent, for me he's far from a complete half back but he can become one with us at hull .

Horne is fantastic at Full back, but then we loose his quality and attack in the halves.

This kid we signed from wigan, any good? if so would you throw him in at FB against leeds?

Man of the match in the Valvoline Cup Final by all accounts. Can't be half bad.

Am I the only one seeing a major contradiction there?

Was reading and agreeing with everything you said thinking, we've said that, then realised.

I can understand the OP'c concerns if Im honest because whichever way you look at it we do seem to be losing some quality, however like I've said previously it's now up to Gentle to go out and recruit wisely and take this club forward, it looks like he'll have plenty of money available on the cap so they'll be no excuses. I also heard his interview last night and echo what robbo has siad it certainly sounded like he was making a point that McKinon wasn't one of his signings.

I am extremely excited, optimistic and as passionate about what is going on at Hull Fc as anybody. I have got my passion back this season after having it drained slowly away by the previous regime. I have even started going to away games once again.

Look at it this way. Yeah we have lost Manu, possibly Turner and who knows maybe others, let them go and hope they regret their decisions down the line. Wade going was just one of them things, lets move on.

But we have signed Gareth Ellis already. Every other super league club went in for him and he chose us. I dont pretend to know what he is earning as it is none of my business, but again he chose us. I am also sure that it was stated that we didnt make the biggest financial offer, but again he chose to join us. Now i assume as part of the negotiations. Bomber and the others will have told Ellis about our plans, our playing targets, maybe even told him who we already have agreed to sign, and guess what Ellis chose to join us.

The future is bright, its black and white. Trust in the AP he will deliver

The number of matches missed through injury by Willie Manu compares very favourably with matches missed by Gareth Ellis last season and the present season (40%). Bearing that in mind I’m not sure Manu would be a better option for Hull

.....maybe it's not the best comparison to make but consider what the present British government inherited with what Messrs Gentle, McRae and Pearson inherited from the previous regime!

Hull F.C needs time to develop and improve things both on and off the field. PG and SM need to create and deliver their own team and only then can their performance be judged.

The injuries have occurred at a time when it would have been good to consolidate our position in the league and progress in the cup. If we'd won our recent games then I'm sure that we'd not be so concerned about players coming and going!

The future's bright the future's definitely black and white!

You're right, it's not.

Am I the only one who thinks losing Turner would be no big deal for your club?

No I do too. Arundel is just as good if not better.

if there were any comparison between gentle,mcrae and pearson to cameron and is shower,we would have joined up with the dobbins.

And maybe offer Martin 35-40g as squad player? Just me then. Lol

And maybe offer Martin 35-40g as squad player? Just me then. Lol

Worst. Analogy. Ever.

You saying our new lot are going to accelerate equally far into the mire in two years flat?

Archetypical Hull fan.





McKinnon = Wife not settled so Hull release.
Manu = End of career looming and bigger pay day offered.
Turner = why is him signing a no brainer? He may choose to head back towards his roots. Hardly irreplaceable

You are right we shouldn't be worrying about next season and guess what ....I aint. Nothing going on behind the scenes, just contract negotiations, agents and the usual doom and gloom merchants sat in front of computer keyboards.

The boat hasn't even been refloated yet after the last lot sunk it. Realistically it could be 5 years before we're genuinely challenging given the shat state of our youth development

No, comparing the change in government would be like replacing Hetherington, Rule and Agar with Dobbo, Easty and Damo.

Yes, he is.

Whoa. Our quota of non fed trolls is full.
We don't want him or could find a loophole for him.
Clearly a City fan

No, certainly not, Crooks and maybe Crookes will replace him.

Nobody wants to see any of our players leave especially the likes of Manu, Turner etc. but as has already been said, this merely wipes the canvas clean quicker than we thought. PG, Bomber and AP can look to strengthen their team in their way with a pot of dosh to play with.
Draw up the sails, the boat is ready for launch

You'd think if he was a City fan he'd have a lot more to worry about than trolling our board. But then, I suppose you could say the same for if he was a Rovers fan.