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| Quote ="North London Gooner"Now Now northerner, calm down!
Red card was deserved, end of!!!'"
I'm plenty calm southern softie
It was a great hit and never a red card in a million years. End of.
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| Quote ="North London Gooner"Now Now northerner, calm down!
Red card was deserved, end of!!!'"
Stick to football gooner, mind you the gooners are as depressing as the broncos at the moment.
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| Quote ="North London Gooner"Now Now northerner, calm down!
Red card was deserved, end of!!!'"
Buy a rule book for rugby league, shoulder hits are legal. Moa never went for his head, he went for chest but the player turned and bent in, no intention to attack the head what so ever!!! unlike your player on Sharp!
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| Just looked at the hit again an moa hits rinaldi on the shoulder as rinaldi turned away
If moa had hit his head there would have been an injury to rinaldis face...there wasnt...so perfectly legal challenge
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| A grade d offence carries upto a 5 match ban - deliberately striking the ball carrier with an arm, hand or shoulder in the head would constitute this
Moa makes no attempt to effect a tackle and used a dangerous technique outlawed against a ball carrier
He will be back for round 9
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| Shoulder charge by the ball carrier is ok as is two guys competing for the ball if running in the same direction. Knocking an opponent out with a high tackle with the shoulder is outlawed sadly
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| It was a hit plain and simple and one we see players try every week, never a sending let alone a penalty.
I do wonder who made the decision as I dont remember seeing Silverwood nor either touch judge show any sort of decision other than play on until about 3 minutes later. For me if Silverwood (or the ref in his earpiece) deemed it a sending off as has been said I expect to see red cards every week now. Another question is how the hell did Antonio Kafusi stay on the field as he had 2 attempts head shots straight after the play restarted then swung a straight arm at Sharp who had it not seen it coming would have had his head taken off. That for me was more deserving of a red than anything else in the game.
Shocking display after the red card by Silverwood who to be fair I thought hadn't been too bad until then.
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| The reaction of the London players tells you how bad a tackle it was.
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| Quote ="markrammond"A grade d offence carries upto a 5 match ban - deliberately striking the ball carrier with an arm, hand or shoulder in the head would constitute this
Moa makes no attempt to effect a tackle and used a dangerous technique outlawed against a ball carrier
He will be back for round 9'"
Firstly, I'd take issue with your idea that he deliberately aimed for the head. The initial contact looks to be just below the chin but then rises up and his Rinaldi in the chin. Also as has been pointed out Rinaldi dummied and stepped inside at an unfortunate moment causing him to be lower than expected.
Secondly shoulder charges are not outlawed.
Sending off sufficient is my expected outcome and if it isn't I'd definitely be appealing.
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| Quote ="markrammond"A grade d offence carries upto a 5 match ban - deliberately striking the ball carrier with an arm, hand or shoulder in the head would constitute this
Moa makes no attempt to effect a tackle and used a dangerous technique outlawed against a ball carrier
He will be back for round 9'" What dont you =#FF0000No - Chris understand about the fact....he DIDNT hit his head ffs
If you had been hit at that pace and that hard on the shoulder you would sustain whiplash and concusion...which is what happened
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| Quote ="markrammond"A grade d offence carries upto a 5 match ban - deliberately striking the ball carrier with an arm, hand or shoulder in the head would constitute this
Moa makes no attempt to effect a tackle and used a dangerous technique outlawed against a ball carrier
He will be back for round 9'"
He'll be back for round four soft cock
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| Quote ="markrammond"A grade d offence carries upto a 5 match ban - deliberately striking the ball carrier with an arm, hand or shoulder in the head would constitute this
Moa makes no attempt to effect a tackle and used a dangerous technique outlawed against a ball carrier
He will be back for round 9'"
The shoulder charge isn't outlawed. If he gets any ban I'd be amazed.
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| Quote ="forevafaithful"Quote ="markrammond"A grade d offence carries upto a 5 match ban - deliberately striking the ball carrier with an arm, hand or shoulder in the head would constitute this
Moa makes no attempt to effect a tackle and used a dangerous technique outlawed against a ball carrier
He will be back for round 9'" What dont you retards understand about the fact....he DIDNT hit his head ffs
If you had been hit at that pace and that hard on the shoulder you would sustain whiplash and concusion...which is what happened'"
Look at the replay. Moa clearly makes contact with Rinaldi's head, though entirely accidentally.
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| I'm looking forward to seeing it again on TV tonight, but at the time and on the replays I thought it was a great hit, the sort that if it had been in the NRL would make the end of season list. The fact that the London players were not appealing for anything spoke volumes. And to follow it up by letting Kaufusi get away with his attempted assault just rubbed salt into the wound.
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| I've got no idea what Moa can expect on Tuesday night from the RFL. Would hope it's SOS, and Moa's previous good (from what I can remember) record will be taken into account, but this is the RFL.
The point about the comparison with NRL is a good one.
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| I'd be disappointed with SOS. Should be no case to answer.
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| Quote ="bishops finger"The reaction of the London players tells you how bad a tackle it was.'"
I thought they seemed to carry on at first, not even stop in expectation of a penalty. It was only Kaufusi who decided the sending off gave him free reign to go head-hunting.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"I'd be disappointed with SOS. Should be no case to answer.'"
I'd just be happy that he is available to play against Salford.
without him and O'Carroll we would be looking very light in the pack.
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| Quote ="markrammond"A grade d offence carries upto a 5 match ban - deliberately striking the ball carrier with an arm, hand or shoulder in the head would constitute this
Moa makes no attempt to effect a tackle and used a dangerous technique outlawed against a ball carrier
He will be back for round 9'"
Are you saying he deliberately went for the head? Because if you are, you are speaking nonsense.
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| seen the replay - he lines him up and hits with the shoulder, but turns away just as rinaldi steps and ducks into it. impact is top of shoulder into head - not an intentional attack on the head as rinaldi has clearly ducked into it. technically yes its a sending off, but there was so much doubt on the field that it should have gone on report. silverwood has had some info from somewhere i'm sure - this is the question that should be asked
also you can hear the hull player (lynch probably) stating that rinaldi has ducked into what would have been an impact on the upper chest/shoulder if rinaldi had stayed upright
overall its more of a non deliberate/accidental/unlucky attack on the head and sending off sufficient will probably result
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| inconsistency all weekend, he got the red card from the night before imo
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| what annoyed me more was the wild swing the london player took 2 minutes later which didnt even warrant a talking to
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| Let me be totally clear here.
I think the red card was harsh, because moa did not do it intentionally, and the london player went to dummy/side step and lowered his body position, hence the contact being around his face.
But for me if there's anything that made up the mind of the t/j or the ref, it would be that Moa was not in control of the tackle, which made it look "reckless". I've watched it over and over again, I don't think our fans screaming OOOHHHHHFFFFF on the reply/big screen helped.
Heart says NFA, head says 2 match ban.
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| Quote ="The Bomber IS Back"Let me be totally clear here.
I think the red card was harsh, because moa did not do it intentionally, and the london player went to dummy/side step and lowered his body shop, hence the contact being around his face.
But for me if there's anything that made up the mind of the t/j or the ref, it would be that Moa was not in control of the tackle, which made it look "reckless". I've watched it over and over again, I don't think our fans screaming OOOHHHHHFFFFF on the reply/big screen helped.
Heart says NFA, head says 2 match ban.
Lewis'"
I am sure the people at Hull who deal with Disciplinaries will be digging into the archives for Morley tackles and others where they have been put on report for something very similar and then got a caution at worst in front of the panel. Be surprised if he is not playing on Friday, but if he isn't we will deal with it.
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| Compare it too Tommy Lees tackle and Moas is never a sending off, yes it was hard and maybe hard, but didn't look intentional. And if it was Broncos players would have reacted, they never.
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