Maybe if you'd gone to Uni and got a decent job you wouldn't need a handout.

just a thought.

Well you wouldn't have would you, they're not usually in the pub.

yeah their hard done by.

Who said they was? They should work around their timetables, but let's not go pretending they're 'rolling in it' either.

My Nephew is at Uni in Cardiff and works three part time jobs around his course work, always too knackered to go out ha ha,

Who said they was?

Been able to afford a pint doesn't mean their Richard Branson, but their certainly not on the poverty line.

Fuck Uni, i like to work for a living.

Seen off many graduates in my time too ;icon_smile.gif

Maybe passes should be means tested then, eh?

Didn't know Burger King had a graduate programme.

One of my lot is now aged 17 and so doesnt get in as a junior,but is only at 6th form,therefore doesn't get any money.His pass went from £49 to £155 this time.At rovers he would still have got in om a junior price!!

Tell him to get a job.

Or send him to Craven Park

While he's at college for potentially 30 hours a week? Then the home study aspect of it. Seems a bit unreasonable to me.
Our students should be subsidized imo, why not? Now with all the tuition fees that Labour first introduced and the Tories are now increasing, they're hardly sponging off the state now, are they?

the same unreasonable that workers have to do a 60+ hours week in some industries ?

Do they get paid for it? Then they can afford a pass, can't they.

It's good to know that stereotyping is alive and well.

Why should we punish people who want to better themselves?

Or maybe they are working them hours to make ends meet and make a better life for there family etc

Maybe you should say that all passes should be means tested eh?

Indeed.

Quite easy to contradict yourself aint it

As is said earlier in the thread, if people tried to better themselves they wouldn't have to work that many hours to make ends meet.
I don't see the problem in subsidizing students £40-60 because they choose to go on to further education to better themselves instead of going straight into work. These are potentially our future Doctor's, surgeons, nurses, accountants, Solicitors etc.

How's that a contradiction?



There's a difference between making ends meet and bettering yourself.

That is complete bollox. There are people with quals as long as your arms working in industries that they shouldnt be in , just because of the way the whole jobs market works and many other factors. Some people come out of work and have to grab any job they can, then get stuck on the treadmill and can never find a way off.

You then also get a whole bunch of graduates who get the degrees but cant handle the jobs they go into.

And what percentage of grads go into the health sector?? probably a very low one

So a 'family man' who works full time plus and ends up with similar disposable income to a student.

Who deserves the subsidy?

What disposable income would a student have? Especially now the government have abolished the Educational Maintenance Allowance.

Don't disagree with anything there, really. But that's not what this is about, this is about a student getting a £40-60 subsidy on a season pass. The student has to be studying full time which is about 20 hours I think. You also can't group all students together either, some have far differing personal lives.