We do get let down by the players, but there's something about Agar that just says to me he's not that inspirational to the players, no big motivational half time speeches etc. I could be wrong, but that's what I sense.

sums it perfectly

Not sure I'd go quite that far

punctuated by occasional good (great) stuff, which makes it all the more perplexing.

Time of the month?
Horoscopes not good on certain days?
Pre-match meals tampered with?

I think you may need a bit of counselling





I agree he should not have had a 2 yr deal, just not sure about the shooting in the face bit though

I wasn't thrilled with his appointment at the time but was willing to give him my support as fan of Hull Fc and give him a chance. Was even less thrilled when he was offered an extension after a very poor showing in the tenure so far.

For me the club got it wrong and should have got rid of the whole of the coaching set up and started from scratch instead of appointing the assistant who had failed along with the 2 head coaches he replaced after being sacked.
Stats dont lie when you look at his % ratio against Kear & Sharp and Agar has the poorest return.

He's had 3 seasons to show signs of improvement at the very least and we have seen little of this and still see the same old failings seasons down the line. Things have changed quite abit with regards, players, coaching staff hell even the trainers yet one thing has remained constant and that is Agar, he has been here through all the failings yet still seems immune to the bullet even though his record sucks.

He has shown he is tactically inept, seems to have no ability to change things if an opposong team gets the upper hand, his interchanges still leave us all baffled etc.

The BOD are also very deluded if they think that scrapping for 8th place is "exciting" according to our illustrious leader and acceptable, it isnt it bl00dy pathetic and an insult to the club and fans.

I'm not happy with the fact that he is our coach. Whilst I'm sure that he's a decent guy and does try his best, I don't think that he's up to the task and I don't think that the club will go much further under his tenure. Whilst some things were beyond his control - like the injury crises that we've had - there were still many things that haven't been sorted that are blatently obvious to the fans (such as our right-side-defence being shocking 3 years down the line).

Like others have said, tactics have been his weakness. If we're losing, nothing gets changed up and if we go into halftime losing I don't see him as the person to deliver an inspiring teamtalk to rally the players up. We also have to be one of the least consistent teams around, too.

Interchange wise, he's sometimes okay but sometimes baffling. Against Salford Sam Moa was about to be brought on with 30 seconds to go (but there wasn't the oppotunity and the hooter went before he could get on).

I think there's just 1 question to be asked: Have Hull, as a side, improved since he took over? For me the answer is 'barely'. He's made some good signings - O'Meley for example - but hasn't had the ability to gel the players together in a way to get the most from them, meaning that we are perennial underachievers.

Feel kinda sorry for the guy but I just don't think that he's right for the job. The only time that I've seen the players motivated because of him was when he was being slagged off in the press.

i think if agar remains after this season then pass sales will plummet, i'm not bothering for next year unless there is change. almost didnt bother this year but you live and learn.

I agree with that...Agar/the coaching set up as a whole is taking us knowhere fast and its well over due us bringing someone else in,but the coach cannot do much about players throwing ridiculous offloads,missing tackles and dropping ball....the players have to take some responsiblity for some of our performances aswell.

we'll see how they bounce back this weekend. its the coaches job to pick up a team when they suffer a bad reverse. yes the players need to do it themselves but the coach must get them up for the game. its also obvious that the attack needs to be more expansive against the bigger teams - we seem to go into a shell against these

No and of course like many I never was happy with Agar as a coach. We have all had to endure endless disappointing results, poor/mediocre quality play/entertainment and above all else a BOD who clearly care not, what us the fans think. The papering over the cracks scenario has been exhausted so much that even polycell wouldnt sponsor us now. My family will be yet another family who will not renew our passes unless he is ousted and believe me we go home and away and spend an absolute fortune in the shop per year on merchandise. I have been a fan for many many years and I will remain a fan forever, I will not however "support" in financial terms, another season of the BOD endorsing Mr Agar and his non attributes as Head Coach. I have always lived by the "Any Kind of Weather" mantra but like many "old faithful" pals of mine, enough is now enough. Mr. Agar has, it seems, by way of recent attendances, already alienated some pass holders, most walk ups and by next season a fair selection of the previously "in any kind of weathers". Im praying that surely even a BOD with such a close/personal relationship with Mr. Agar cannot carry the financial loss/ burden of his appointment much longer.

I was underwhelmed when we first signed Agar,its gone downhill from there with me.

Another one here. Whilst I admire his work ethic and defensive ability, I think he is built up far too much on this board at times.

And it was Agar who brought him in as a leader on and off the pitch. Well the guy can tackle and works hard but so often the thing that we complain about is the lack of leadership. He wasn't on the pitch for long at Leeds but his ridiculous amount of minutes that he's insisted ( or so it seems ) on playing during his time here have not seen us have the direction or the ability to react positively to adversity etc. He's slow and naturally gets slower after an hour or so of battering his body into anything that moves. I too admire his work ethic but he should have been used differently and any positive results of his leadership qualities are not visible to me.

I genuinely wonder how he is viewed by his teammates. There are certain things during his time here that I think suggest favourable treatment and aloofness on his part.

Where is the ice cream man when you need a positive spin ?
Is he unavailable with the hot weather or is he not posting becoz he doesnt want to join the Agar out gang afterall ? Even he cant keep shouting Agar up after more and more defeats.

He often goes missing for 3/4 days after a crap result (he can't get on here fast enough if they have a good one).

maybe he just doesn't spend all his time at a computer like a few folks on here

If folks are getting paid for it!! why not



They may have banned facebook on most work computers but not RLFans

What, like him getting the team together the night before the Harlequins away game to discuss how important it was?
Playing on with a shoulder injury reported to be career-ending?
Making 50 tackles a game?

No of course we are not happy, but I am even less happy about the Moron who started this thread and every other thread he starts, has posted over 12000 posts and has a severe obsession called antiagariteous and expects everyone else to agree with him, for gods sake get a job!!

when first appointed I thought it was a natural progression of an up an coming coach.

on his extention of contract on April fools day

I thought it stank of desperation.

I was of many on here that after he started to gather his own troops that his true colours would emerge



Only thing was i thought it would be a bit more positive than it has turned out.

Our record against the "Bigger sides" is poor and for the size and tradition of our great club we should be pushing these so called "Bigger sides", (Hudds, Cas, Catalan FFS), and finishing higher.

So in answer to the question. A Big NO.

Solution? I'm affraid I do not claim to be an expert but Agar is not working or achieving what this club deserves and the club has far higher paid people who should be answering that question before me.

All I want is a club who week in week out gives 100%, a coach appointed who can motivate and lead the team to success, and players who play with passion and pride to wear the shirt and unfortunately some if not all of these points seem to be missing.

More like the way some of his comments in the press/on the website have been worded, like he's talking down to people or cheapening the influence of his teammates (I'm thinking of the not playing at prop piece in particular). Or similar with a couple of his blogs I've seen. Or the way he appears to have been able to dictate where and how long he plays regardless or form/influence.



I think in some ways he's perhaps put his own desires above the team's, as he seems to have some sort of obsession with proving he can still physically match other players despite his age. I may be wrong, I just detect more than a whiff of arrogance.

Agar wont improve on 6th and unless he wins the CC should be replaced at the end of the season as he will have taken performances backwards from 2010. Giving him a 2 year extension was a crazy decision as I think almost everyone said at the time. If he goes (which I doubt) I agree with the point made that it should be a clean sweep at all levels of coaching staff.

Fitzgibbon has been a superb player for us in the job he has done over 2 seasons. I just wish that some more of our players were good enough to be arrogant if indeed he is that (which I doubt he is within the team environment). It's a common trait in top sports players like Fitz who have their achievements to back up their behaviour.