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| Quote ="R.B.A"What would you guys rather see from the rest of the season, Agar continue to pick his strongest side every week and possibly end up in 8th spot or blood half a dozen or so youngsters over the next 10 games possibly finish 9th but be better equiped for next season?
From a Rovers point of view i would like us to finish in the 8 but in reality even if we do we arnt going to be a threat in the play-offs. Would rather we blood some youngsters in readiness for 2012.'"
Tbh at best we are probably looking at 8th which will mean a trip to Leeds. Whilst it would be good to get 8th and maybe win at Leeds I would rather see some gametime for the likes of Green, Aldous, Kent, Cunningham, Newton and Crooks.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Tbh at best we are probably looking at 8th which will mean a trip to Leeds. Whilst it would be good to get 8th and maybe win at Leeds I would rather see some gametime for the likes of Green, Aldous, Kent, Cunningham, Newton and Crooks.'"
It's something Hull have never really done . Barring injuries , When do these kids get a fair chance ?.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Tbh at best we are probably looking at 8th which will mean a trip to Leeds. Whilst it would be good to get 8th and maybe win at Leeds I would rather see some gametime for the likes of Green, Aldous, Kent, Cunningham, Newton and Crooks.'"
Aldous,Bowen and Crooks i would like to see come through some time as for others,i just cant see the fuss about Kent...not done anything for me in the u-20s i have seen.
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| Quote ="R.B.A"What would you guys rather see from the rest of the season, Agar continue to pick his strongest side every week and possibly end up in 8th spot or blood half a dozen or so youngsters over the next 10 games possibly finish 9th but be better equiped for next season?
From a Rovers point of view i would like us to finish in the 8 but in reality even if we do we arnt going to be a threat in the play-offs. Would rather we blood some youngsters in readiness for 2012.'"
Would just like to see Agar go...couldnt care less what happens then.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Aldous,Bowen and Crooks i would like to see come through some time as for others,i just cant see the fuss about Kent...not done anything for me in the u-20s i have seen.'"
Jim or Matty Bowen ?
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| Quote ="B0NES"It's something Hull have never really done . Barring injuries , When do these kids get a fair chance ?.'"
Precisely, they don't. We might have to rely on some of them next season so why not give them a go this season and see where they are development wise.
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| Quote ="hullandbroncos"Jim or Matty Bowen ?'"
All ready got one comedian at the club in Agar.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Precisely, they don't. We might have to rely on some of them next season so why not give them a go this season and see where they are development wise.'"
It would be very harsh on them to start next season with no games under their belt and like you say a couple of them will be needed I think next season
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| Quote ="B0NES"It's something Hull have never really done . Barring injuries , When do these kids get a fair chance ?.'"
Think that's a bit simplistic. Whilst the first team are struggling to make an impression on the competition, would you drop Manu, Tickle, Fitz or Westerman to accommodate an academy back rower? Agar allowed Houghton to displace Berrigan because his performances merited it. Hall and Lee played stacks of games for FC being being moved on. I applaud Saints and their approach of getting youngsters straight in the team when required, but much of that this season has been down to a shocking run of injuries. I do think Agar prefers to shift his senior players round to cover an injury rather than simply replace with an academy specialist, but think you're being a bit unfair.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Precisely, they don't. We might have to rely on some of them next season so why not give them a go this season and see where they are development wise.'"
Does their lack of first team action suggest they may not all be still with Hull next season?
As you say Agar should at least have a look at them playing Super League level in case they are needed next year and there have been a couple of opportunities to do this none more so then last week at home to Quins when Fitz hardly played off the bench.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Think that's a bit simplistic. Whilst the first team are struggling to make an impression on the competition, would you drop Manu, Tickle, Fitz or Westerman to accommodate an academy back rower? Agar allowed Houghton to displace Berrigan because his performances merited it. Hall and Lee played stacks of games for FC being being moved on. I applaud Saints and their approach of getting youngsters straight in the team when required, but much of that this season has been down to a shocking run of injuries. I do think Agar prefers to shift his senior players round to cover an injury rather than simply replace with an academy specialist, but think you're being a bit unfair.'"
Why is he being unfair.....we had prop problems earlier so why didnt Aldous get a game...a 80pt drubbing of a pi$$ poor Oldham team wont do him any good...end of the day...our youngsters dont get chances and the sooner the whole coaching set up is overhauled the better.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Think that's a bit simplistic. Whilst the first team are struggling to make an impression on the competition, would you drop Manu, Tickle, Fitz or Westerman to accommodate an academy back rower? Agar allowed Houghton to displace Berrigan because his performances merited it. Hall and Lee played stacks of games for FC being being moved on. I applaud Saints and their approach of getting youngsters straight in the team when required, but much of that this season has been down to a shocking run of injuries. I do think Agar prefers to shift his senior players round to cover an injury rather than simply replace with an academy specialist, but think you're being a bit unfair.'"
I take your point but Agar's policy is part of the problem here. We have a potentially good crop of young players at the club but when exactly will they get their chance?
Shuffling players around is not the answer, young players need a chance at some stage and when a senior player is injured then a young player should be given a shot. Otherwise we can't judge where they are in their progression.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Does their lack of first team action suggest they may not all be still with Hull next season?
As you say Agar should at least have a look at them playing Super League level in case they are needed next year and there have been a couple of opportunities to do this none more so then last week at home to Quins when Fitz hardly played off the bench.'"
That will be most of them then! Last week and the two CC games were the perfect opportunity but we never used it.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Does their lack of first team action suggest they may not all be still with Hull next season?
As you say Agar should at least have a look at them playing Super League level in case they are needed next year and there have been a couple of opportunities to do this none more so then last week at home to Quins when Fitz hardly played off the bench.'"
Aldous should have been in for O'Meley and Kent for Fitz and maybe Crooks instead of Turner...we could have got away with using these players but,for me,its just shows up Agars limitations and confidence.How many of the u21s/20s have actually come through the ranks to be a regular? Houghton is the only 1 i can think of...Briscoe was fast-tracked..Hall and Lee dropped after poor perfomances,Washy gone backwards,Thackray shipped out...any one else...even in our injury hit years,we didnt use them and they appeared in 3 finals,winning 2.
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| I don't think you can slag Agar off for playing what is, in his opinion, our best 17.
While we all want to see young players come through, I myself can't wait to see Chris Green play, if one played in front of a available experienced player and he cost us the game these pages would go into melt down.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"I don't think you can slag Agar off for playing what is, in his opinion, our best 17.
While we all want to see young players come through, I myself can't wait to see Chris Green play, if one played in front of a available experienced player and he cost us the game these pages would go into melt down.'"
Hence the question by RBA regarding what fans would prefer. You are right though Agar will want to play his strongest team to help keep his job.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Think that's a bit simplistic. Whilst the first team are struggling to make an impression on the competition, would you drop Manu, Tickle, Fitz or Westerman to accommodate an academy back rower? Agar allowed Houghton to displace Berrigan because his performances merited it. Hall and Lee played stacks of games for FC being being moved on. I applaud Saints and their approach of getting youngsters straight in the team when required, but much of that this season has been down to a shocking run of injuries. I do think Agar prefers to shift his senior players round to cover an injury rather than simply replace with an academy specialist, but think you're being a bit unfair.'"
Fitz should have been rested before the CC kicked in , Then we get Dowes replaces Radford ,Then vice versa.
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| Quote ="B0NES"Fitz should have been rested before the CC kicked in , Then we get Dowes replaces Radford ,Then vice versa.'"
Fair shout on Fitz. Problem is him and Houghton do about 100 tackles a game between them.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Hence the question by RBA regarding what fans would prefer. You are right though Agar will want to play his strongest team to help keep his job.'"
If we get beat on Sunday then I feel we wont see any of our youngsters get a sniff .
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| Quote ="Sheldon"I don't think you can slag Agar off for playing what is, in his opinion, our best 17.
While we all want to see young players come through, I myself can't wait to see Chris Green play, if one played in front of a available experienced player and he cost us the game these pages would go into melt down.'"
I agree that Agar should play his strongest 17 because first and foremost we need to be winning games but last week when Fitz played a cameo role off the bench after his Exiles appearance seemed like the ideal time to play one of the youngsters.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Fair shout on Fitz. Problem is him and Houghton do about 100 tackles a game between them.'"
Correct , But it's been said this season that the rest of the squad have to do their share ,The hard work shouldn't be left to those two players .
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| Going back to the 3 backrowers who are not getting first team opportunities Kent, Cunningham and Green. Does this mean both Washy and Burnett may have a future with Hull next year?
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Hence the question by RBA regarding what fans would prefer. You are right though Agar will want to play his strongest team to help keep his job.'"
But these are the some of the same fans who complain about us not putting 50 on a club for x amount of games.
I must admit having overseas players as back up or even signing one which would keep a player getting good reviews in the u20's further down the pecking order is a little confusing but that might be the difference between one or two places in the league.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"I agree that Agar should play his strongest 17 because first and foremost we need to be winning games but last week when Fitz played a cameo role off the bench after his Exiles appearance seemed like the ideal time to play one of the youngsters.'"
To a extent I agree, in the match tread I said we should have left them all out, but imagine if we'd have put in a Wakefield performance and hadn't have had Fitz on the bench to come on and stead the ship?
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| Quote ="R.B.A"What would you guys rather see from the rest of the season, Agar continue to pick his strongest side every week and possibly end up in 8th spot or blood half a dozen or so youngsters over the next 10 games possibly finish 9th but be better equiped for next season?
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I want to see agar sacked. 8th at best is shocking for a side spending the full cap. At least 2 sides above us are spending less on players
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