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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"I think this coming weekends fixtures may have a bearing on longevity of Richs job unfortunately
definately a very unhappy place to be right now'"
I think you're right, I always said he would be judged around easter and should we lose to Rovers the pressure will really intensify, add then defeats to Wire away and maybe Saints at home and his position could well be untenable.
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"everyone feels it standee , no one enjoys losing especially like the weekend
no excuse but lets be fair were not the only team they have done a number on recently , better than they are given credit for'"
I see you're still indulging in making excuses for his pathetic coaching record, he is not good enough as a first team coach, we have known it for some considerable time.
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| as much as I want to see a top quality coach at the club - and losing to rovers would bring that one step closer - i still cannot bear to lose to Rovers and would love to give them a beating, and will be praying we do
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| Quote ="Standee"I see you're still indulging in making excuses for his pathetic coaching record, he is not good enough as a first team coach, we have known it for some considerable time.'"
Where is the excuse in that?? What about that statement was incorrect - they have beaten the champions and cup holders in their own back yard in the last 2 weeks
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"Where is the excuse in that?? What about that statement was incorrect - they have beaten the champions and cup holders in their own back yard in the last 2 weeks'"
from what I have been told about the game Catalans were poor, again we didn't put in the performance required.
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| Quote ="Standee"I see you're still indulging in making excuses for his pathetic coaching record, he is not good enough as a first team coach, we have known it for some considerable time.'"
Thought you said he was a good 'technical coach', would love to know what that means?
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| Quote ="VerbalKint"Thought you said he was a good 'technical coach', would love to know what that means?'"
I am told his analysis of teams strengths and weaknesses is solid, as is his attention to giving individual players targets of areas to improve etc. he is a a coach in the strictest sense of the word, that doesn't mean he is a disciplinarian, a motivator or a leader of men.
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| Quote ="Standee"I see you're still indulging in making excuses for his pathetic coaching record, he is not good enough as a first team coach, we have known it for some considerable time.'"
No excuse there , maybe your reading a different post mate!
what i said is actually fact , they have tubbed the best recently and were another notch o their well earned bedpost tally!!
neither team were very good but cats were much better second half , their speed at the play the ball was awesome second half which placed us under pressure that resulted in panic footie..
certainly no excuses tho, i feel as gutted as anyone
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"No excuse there , maybe your reading a different post mate!
what i said is actually fact , they have tubbed the best recently and were another notch o their well earned bedpost tally!!
neither team were very good but cats were much better second half , their speed at the play the ball was awesome second half which placed us under pressure that resulted in panic footie..
certainly no excuses tho, i feel as gutted as anyone'"
so is he not the best young british coach in SL now?
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"No excuse there , maybe your reading a different post mate!
what i said is actually fact , they have tubbed the best recently and were another notch o their well earned bedpost tally!!
neither team were very good but cats were much better second half , their speed at the play the ball was awesome second half which placed us under pressure that resulted in panic footie..
certainly no excuses tho, i feel as gutted as anyone'"
It's not just about the result against Catalans (I expected to lose due to their recent form) it's more to do with his overall record and especially this season. 7 defeats from 10 is simply not good enough and just 4 wins from the last 14 is appalling, he should be long gone.
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| Quote ="Standee"so is he not the best young british coach in SL now?'"
why has he been fired?
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| Quote ="Smiggs"It's not just about the result against Catalans (I expected to lose due to their recent form) it's more to do with his overall record and especially this season. 7 defeats from 10 is simply not good enough and just 4 from the last 14 is appalling, he should be long gone.'"
I cant disagree, its not pretty reading is it and to be fair to the BOD given their history of nailing coaches to the cross he is i guess lucky they are being loyal and giving him time i guess but agree it isnt good reading, or watching at times
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"why has he been fired?'"
no, unfortunately, but he should have been weeks ago.
you keep trotting out how wonderful he is, not me.
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| Quote ="Smiggs"It's not just about the result against Catalans (I expected to lose due to their recent form) it's more to do with his overall record and especially this season. 7 defeats from 10 is simply not good enough and just 4 wins from the last 14 is appalling, he should be long gone.'"
Think he will be after the weekend.
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| Quote ="Standee"so is he not the best young british coach in SL now?'"
How did we get to that?
I think the sooner he goes the better for everyone, the current situation is no good for anyone.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"I think you're right, I always said he would be judged around easter and should we lose to Rovers the pressure will really intensify, add then defeats to Wire away and maybe Saints at home and his position could well be untenable.'"
I am under no illusion given what happened after the match Paul that the pressure is most definately ON in capital letters, I think given current form you would say we are looking down the barrel of three bad loses and at that point i would also agree if that is the case at that point that it would be difficult to disagree with your prognosis mate!
BUT youknow pro sport is a weird place isnt it and how things can turn around in a few minutes is crazy, as much as i hate it who would have said Stoke city would have clacked five past in the cup semi?? these things happen and a good win against HKR could change a great deal...
i still think the signing of martin could have a massive bearing on how things pan out mate
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| Quote ="PAUL M"How did we get to that?
I think the sooner he goes the better for everyone, [uthe current situation is no good for anyone[/u.'"
including Rich!
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| Quote ="PAUL M"How did we get to that?
I think the sooner he goes the better for everyone, the current situation is no good for anyone.'"
I said a few weeks ago it will get messy Paul...Know-one wants that or deserves that really, Rich is a nice bloke, however I wish he would just walk away now, today!...as it could be very humiliating for him on Friday especially with the cameras there, even if we win on Friday, this point will come again and again I am afraid.
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"including Rich!'"
I like Rich Agar, always have, however I feel he has let me down..he said at the beginning if he failed he would walk away, now his win ratio is evidence of his failure yet he is still here!!basically I feel he has deceived me and 1000s of others.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"I said a few weeks ago it will get messy Paul...Know-one wants that or deserves that really, Rich is a nice bloke, however I wish he would just walk away now, today!...as it could be very humiliating for him on Friday especially with the cameras there, even if we win on Friday, this point will come again and again I am afraid.
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Don't think it will go on for much longer, he's on borrowed time now imo and two defeats over easter will seal his fate. If we beat Rovers it will give him so life but I don't see him being around too much longer now. Unless we start winning!
He's a good bloke so I hope he is not left to linger too long and take abuse from the terraces.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Don't think it will go on for much longer, he's on borrowed time now imo and two defeats over easter will seal his fate. If we beat Rovers it will give him so life but I don't see him being around too much longer now. Unless we start winning!
[uHe's a good bloke so I hope he is not left to linger too long and take abuse from the terraces[/u.'"
unlike one or two immediately before him, rich has worked his bag off , put in more time and VT time etc than anyone in the game i know but for what ever reason it isnt happening at present
all we can hope for is that we trounce HKR, then get a result at the wire and then Shaun does a number on his previous employers too
all fans want that I am sure
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"a good win against HKR could change a great deal...
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Why would it change anything? We have beaten 3 teams.
1, Crusaders who are absolutely awful
2, Bradford, hit and miss team who like us are missing more than they are hitting. They have had 50 put on them twice and victories over Crusaders/Wakey/Quins and Cas show they are a long way off being a good team.
3, Quins, Had the early season roll that we have been accustomed to getting for a few years and have started sliding down the league dramatically.
All 3 teams we have beaten are currently in the bottom half of the league and have 3 of the 4 worst defences.
If we beat Rovers that will make 4 teams in the bottom half we have beaten, if that is enough to change things a great deal i am staggered to say the least.
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| Quote ="hullbg"Why would it change anything? We have beaten 3 teams.
1, Crusaders who are absolutely awful
2, Bradford, hit and miss team who like us are missing more than they are hitting. They have had 50 put on them twice and victories over Crusaders/Wakey/Quins and Cas show they are a long way off being a good team.
3, Quins, Had the early season roll that we have been accustomed to getting for a few years and have started sliding down the league dramatically.
All 3 teams we have beaten are currently in the bottom half of the league and have 3 of the 4 worst defences.
If we beat Rovers that will make 4 teams in the bottom half we have beaten, if that is enough to change things a great deal i am staggered to say the least.'"
I know what you mean but as you know a win in the derby in Hull is like a world cup final win to the winners and the bottom of the Pacific for the losers, a win could be the mental pep they need, oh i dunno i guess i am trying to see light in a dark tunnel at present ,
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| Quote ="hullbg"
If we beat Rovers that will make 4 teams in the bottom half we have beaten, if that is enough to change things a great deal i am staggered to say the least.'"
Keep the faith. We're training well. If we can raise us bar on the island and start to aim up, we can start to climb the league table. We're playing like a top 8 team, so it's only a matter of time before we're in the top 8.
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"I know what you mean but as you know a win in the derby in Hull is like a world cup final win to the winners and the bottom of the Pacific for the losers, a win could be the mental pep they need, oh i dunno i guess i am trying to see light in a dark tunnel at present ,'"
It is that type of mentality that annoys me (not saying that is your mentality by the way) A win against Rovers should be taken in the right context, yes it is good to get one over on them but when it is 10th v 11th it really should not be meaning too much to supporters.
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